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    Re: Football team forced to remove crosses from helmets

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Nope, I'm calling you out your statements useless. The fact that you don't know who they are doesn't make them any less Christian. You can't even tell us which tenets of Christianity they disagree with. However, you know it's not Christian..... because? I'm asking you to substanciate your sweeping generalization about an organisation whose religious context you were unaware of minutes ago but then rapidly dismissed as being un-Christian without being able to cite one difference between it and that of everyday Christians.
    Never said it they werent Christians, said I didnt know that the organization was based on Christianity.

    Reading....it's fundamental. Please stop reading what you WANT to read into my posts.

    Again, you're making yourself look foolish trying to look 'right' here. Kinda sad it's that important to you.
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Football team forced to remove crosses from helmets

    "At the heart of racism is the religious assertion that God made a creative mistake when He brought some people into being." ~ Friedrich Otto Hertz

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    Re: Football team forced to remove crosses from helmets

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    "At the heart of racism is the religious assertion that God made a creative mistake when He brought some people into being." ~ Friedrich Otto Hertz
    He should stick to renting cars.

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    Re: Football team forced to remove crosses from helmets

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    He should stick to renting cars
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    When you have nothing to say, don't say it.




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    Re: Football team forced to remove crosses from helmets

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    This is so flawed that it demeans a rational person to read it. "Practically invented"? This is funny, but the tone behind it makes it quite serious.
    Oh? Was there anything like the Transatlantic slave trade before it?
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    Re: Football team forced to remove crosses from helmets

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Never said it they werent Christians,
    You seem to be saying a lot of things:

    I said that I didnt believe that their organization was based on a Christian belief or foundation.
    I see NOTHING Christian.
    If their organization wasn't based on Christian belief or foundation and when presented with images of Christian crosses, statements from the leaders and an affirmation that Jesus is the savior, and still reject that you saw anything Chirstian can you still honestly claim that you never said they weren't Christian?
    I refuse to accept the view that mankind is so tragically bound to the starless midnight of racism and war that the bright daybreak of peace and brotherhood can never become a reality. - MLK

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    Re: Football team forced to remove crosses from helmets

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    You seem to be saying a lot of things:

    If their organization wasn't based on Christian belief or foundation and when presented with images of Christian crosses, statements from the leaders and an affirmation that Jesus is the savior, and still reject that you saw anything Chirstian can you still honestly claim that you never said they weren't Christian?
    Wow, 2 quotes from different posts taken out of context!

    Not too desperate to make a point, eh?

    Please...dont ask ME about honesty! LOL

    You still refuse to acknowlege the distinction...dishonest

    People can be Christians in an organization yet the organization not be based on Christian principles. Like the debate society, like a softball team.....
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
    Quote Originally Posted by applejuicefool View Post
    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Football team forced to remove crosses from helmets

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    "At the heart of racism is the religious assertion that God made a creative mistake when He brought some people into being." ~ Friedrich Otto Hertz
    C'mon that is total nonsense considering every religion has all races, so how could such a statement be true?

    If you want to interchange "racism" with "bias" then maybe that quote would make some sort of sense.

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    Re: Football team forced to remove crosses from helmets

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    When you have nothing to say, don't say it.




    "The only valid censorship of ideas is the right of people not to listen." ~ Tommy Smothers
    This I agree with 100%.

    Sadly, some people think it's up to the government to protect them from being offended - as if a crucifix is logically something to be offended by.

    Anyone who is offended by something as mundane a cross has issues or is a total drama queen.

    I'm tired of people thinking others should change so they don't offend others.... People should learn how to ignore what they don't like or what may offend them.

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    Re: Football team forced to remove crosses from helmets

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Or, instead of denying these kids of their civil rights, don't watch the games.
    If these kids' civil rights were violated as you claim...then the Constitution allows for redress of grievance.

    They can ask the university to reconsider. They can ask a judge for injunction. They can file civil rights suits against the university.

    The university did what it believed was proper...If the student[s] remain moot, then no rights were violated.


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