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    Re: Football team forced to remove crosses from helmets

    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    That's a bit different: it wasn't centered on the the Torah; it was centered around a point in human history that not only has emperical evidence to back it up, but affected the entire world. It's not about a certian religious perspective. The kids putting crosses on their helmets were defacing school property and making a religious statement in a publically funded sports program.

    As star of David sewn onto clothing as a pejorative racial identification under school adminstration for the purposes of education and a crucifix sticker put onto a a school helmet by some guys in a public arena because Jesus is their lord and savior are two very differnt things.

    I'm suprised that you try and compare the two.
    They're exactly the same. In both cases, the intent is to show solidarity with, and to memorialize the fallen. I fully support this.

    It doesn't matter if the star was sewn, stiched, knitted, or duct taped (FYI, it was made of construction paper and safety pinned).

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    Re: Football team forced to remove crosses from helmets

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    They're exactly the same. In both cases, the intent is to show solidarity with, and to memorialize the fallen. I fully support this.

    It doesn't matter if the star was sewn, stiched, knitted, or duct taped (FYI, it was made of construction paper and safety pinned).
    Well then, what am I missing about the crosses that validates what you're saying? And I question your interpretation of the star of David representing the fallen in that effect: I really do.
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    Re: Football team forced to remove crosses from helmets

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    I missed when the KKK became a religion.
    the kluckers burn these artifacts
    maybe you can help me remember what it is that they burn
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
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    Re: Football team forced to remove crosses from helmets

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    the kluckers burn these artifacts
    maybe you can help me remember what it is that they burn
    Because they are hating in the name of Christ?
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Football team forced to remove crosses from helmets

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Because they are hating in the name of Christ?
    congratulations. right answer
    they are spreading the word
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
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    Re: Football team forced to remove crosses from helmets

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    congratulations. right answer
    they are spreading the word
    I never heard that their hate was based on the Bible.

    Care to share a foundation for that?
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Football team forced to remove crosses from helmets

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    I never heard that their hate was based on the Bible.

    Care to share a foundation for that?
    what other religion uses crosses in their services?
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
    once you're over the hill you begin to pick up speed

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    Re: Football team forced to remove crosses from helmets

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    what other religion uses crosses in their services?
    I consider their thought processes irrational so I am not going to accord them the ability to rationally connect their beliefs to Christianity.

    Do you have anything else?
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Football team forced to remove crosses from helmets

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    No student was ever forced to have the cross sticker on their helmets. This was done by the students on their own as a means of honoring a fallen teammate who, according to his father, was devoutly Christian
    Thank you for the clarification. So the coaches didn't order the student-athletes to put the decals on their helmets.

    I would also like to offer a clarification: Throughout the thread a few have used "cross" and "crucifix" interchangeably, but they are not the same.

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    Re: Football team forced to remove crosses from helmets

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    I consider their thought processes irrational so I am not going to accord them the ability to rationally connect their beliefs to Christianity.

    Do you have anything else?
    yes, i have shown you why the kluckers are acting in a religious capacity, burning crosses
    and you want to pretend that is not reality
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
    once you're over the hill you begin to pick up speed

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