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    Re: Football team forced to remove crosses from helmets

    would we find it similarly acceptable to allow the students to wear their helmets adorned with a KKK insignia, with the understanding that the students agreed to so wear them ... as a part of the uniform of a state sponsored institution?
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    Re: Football team forced to remove crosses from helmets

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    would we find it similarly acceptable to allow the students to wear their helmets adorned with a KKK insignia, with the understanding that the students agreed to so wear them ... as a part of the uniform of a state sponsored institution?
    A plus sign would be much closer to the KKK insignia.

    When I first read the story, I was thinking the main emblem on the side of the helmet, but for a single season commemoration of teammates this seems trivial.

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    Re: Football team forced to remove crosses from helmets

    Were the dead team-mates crucified?
    If they were then I would understand putting the cross decals on their helmets.
    If they were not ... then the traditional black arm-band would be appropriate and called for to honor their dead on and off the field.
    A football game funded by the state is no place to promote christianity, and that is precisely what these crosses represented.
    The jackass who thought up this christian promotional stunt should be severely reprimanded.

    The judgement to remove the crosses was correct and justified.

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    Re: Football team forced to remove crosses from helmets

    So much over reaction.
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    Re: Football team forced to remove crosses from helmets

    There is no law suit. There is no violation of law. There is not an injured party. The Liberty counsel and Fox news are outraged. What's new.


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    Re: Football team forced to remove crosses from helmets

    Geez people, lighten up.

    This is a public university and they were concerned about certain legal issues apparently...which is their job (I assume).

    No one is going to die without the cross on the helmets.

    And why not just put the initials of the dead people with a R.I.P. on the helmets instead?


    Religion? Humanities dummest invention, imo.

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    Re: Football team forced to remove crosses from helmets

    Quote Originally Posted by 1750Texan View Post
    There is no law suit. There is no violation of law. There is not an injured party. The Liberty counsel and Fox news are outraged. What's new.
    a violation of a constitutional right such as freedom of religion and practice thereof is an injury that these students suffered. the liberty counsel and other should be outraged that people religious rights are being stomped on.

    please see any SCOTUS ruling on this matter. just because you step into a public forum does not mean you give up your 1st amendment rights.

    not only were the kids religious views stepped on but their right to free speech. putting a cross on a helmet is free speech those rights cannot be violated by the state or the government or the FFR no matter how offended they might be.

    your right to be offended doesn't stamp out someone right to free speech.

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    Re: Football team forced to remove crosses from helmets

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    Geez people, lighten up.

    This is a public university and they were concerned about certain legal issues apparently...which is their job (I assume).

    No one is going to die without the cross on the helmets.

    And why not just put the initials of the dead people with a R.I.P. on the helmets instead?


    Religion? Humanities dummest invention, imo.
    violation of the 1st amendment an even dummer invention. which is exaclty what the school and this so called lawyer did was violate the constitution.
    students had every right to put a cross on their helmet if they wanted to.

    if a simple cross offends more so when it is something you don't even believe in then you have bigger issues that you need to deal with.

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    Re: Football team forced to remove crosses from helmets

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    violation of the 1st amendment an even dummer invention. which is exaclty what the school and this so called lawyer did was violate the constitution.
    students had every right to put a cross on their helmet if they wanted to.

    if a simple cross offends more so when it is something you don't even believe in then you have bigger issues that you need to deal with.


    Where did you learn to read? I never said I was offended.

    Offended by what? A bunch of overreacting God-club members?

    LOL.

    I look upon religions the same way I look upon putting wheels on a hat...rather silly and a complete waste of time.


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    Re: Football team forced to remove crosses from helmets

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    a violation of a constitutional right such as freedom of religion and practice thereof is an injury that these students suffered. the liberty counsel and other should be outraged that people religious rights are being stomped on.

    please see any SCOTUS ruling on this matter. just because you step into a public forum does not mean you give up your 1st amendment rights.

    not only were the kids religious views stepped on but their right to free speech. putting a cross on a helmet is free speech those rights cannot be violated by the state or the government or the FFR no matter how offended they might be.

    your right to be offended doesn't stamp out someone right to free speech.
    No .
    The personal expression of their religious freedom ends with their personal attire. The uniform of the school team is NOT personal attire.
    If the University allowed the crosses to be worn as part of the UNIFORM they would be expressing a tacit approval of one particular religion over all others and it is their job as a state run SECULAR organization to see to it that doesn't happen.
    There are lots of appropriate means of expressing public grief without religious overtones...( RIP with initials, black arm-bands etc.)
    When Mohajir chose to use the deaths of these people as an excuse to promote his chosen religion, he crossed a bright line, for a state run school, and he should have known better.

    Using the dead as an excuse for this religious stunt is disgusting and reprehensible .
    Last edited by Buck Ewer; 09-12-14 at 09:51 AM.

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