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    Re: Football team forced to remove crosses from helmets

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    yet teachers can have islam day and hindu day and etc etc etc ... and nothing is said or done unless parents speak up. no lawsuits no threats.
    mention Christ or God and they come out of the wood work.
    Where has a public school had "Islam day" and "Hindu day"?
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    Re: Football team forced to remove crosses from helmets

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    The school coaches were part of the decision to use the stickers. This is not just the players idea.
    While in theory that might be up to a court to decide, I don't see any indication that this was a requirement, compulsion or order.

    I can see why someone might get upset, but at least as far as I can tell, it's protected speech.

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    Re: Football team forced to remove crosses from helmets

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    yet teachers can have islam day and hindu day and etc etc etc ... and nothing is said or done unless parents speak up. no lawsuits no threats.
    mention Christ or God and they come out of the wood work.
    Or not

    Supposedly, he told the kids that if they smoked marijuana, they were going to go to hell. That's not appropriate in a public classroom setting.

    In addition, he did not face any official sanctions; he just felt like the school wasn't backing him up (whatever that means).

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    Re: Football team forced to remove crosses from helmets

    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    It was an analogy. Use your noodle. I know you can do it. Take your time.
    No, it wasn't. The other day you called me a wife beater without any evidence, and today you said that crap. Claiming people are wife beaters when they are not actually has gotten people in trouble with the law, so watch yourself.

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    Re: Football team forced to remove crosses from helmets

    Quote Originally Posted by pinqy View Post
    And? No one could think that giveing him the funeral he wanted was government endorsed religion. Just like crosses or stars of David etc are fine on headstones.
    Precisely. That's why these players choosing to wear the crosses were not at odds with the 1st.

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    Re: Football team forced to remove crosses from helmets

    The school rolling over and being too spineless to put up a fight =/= the school believing their decision is the Constitutionally correct one.
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    Re: Football team forced to remove crosses from helmets

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Precisely. That's why these players choosing to wear the crosses were not at odds with the 1st.
    No, with a headstone you can choose (within some limits) what to have. Could the students have chosen something OTHER than a cross? If not, then it is at odds with the 1st.
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    Re: Football team forced to remove crosses from helmets

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    yet teachers can have islam day and hindu day and etc etc etc ... and nothing is said or done unless parents speak up. no lawsuits no threats.
    mention Christ or God and they come out of the wood work.
    Show me where teachers have had Islam day and Hindu day and etc., etc., etc. and Christian day has been denied. Give us the links. Show us where and let us read about it.










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    Re: Football team forced to remove crosses from helmets

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    No, it wasn't.
    Wow, subtlety isn't your strong suit, let me slow this down for you.

    You made an argument that the players putting crosses on their helmets doesn't hurt someone else.

    I threw out gay marriage as an example of something the right opposes that does precisely the same thing.

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    Re: Football team forced to remove crosses from helmets

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Ah, yes, a couple of dozen university men playing football wanting to honor their former team mates and colleagues by putting a small cross on their helmets
    are actually right-wing evangelicals at war
    .

    Some Americans really need to get over their self-obsession and get lives not devoted to finding offense around every corner and a court case to promote and reward themselves for being clever.


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