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    Re: Football team forced to remove crosses from helmets

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    That was 51 years ago. I'd like to think we've grown a bit.
    Because equating a Presidential Catholic funeral and Jim Crow makes sense....
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Football team forced to remove crosses from helmets

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    I would simply like to note for all the busy bodies who want to make this a constitutional rights issue that you need only cast your mind back to the State funeral for President John F. Kennedy - a Catholic mass in the White House, two Catholic priests standing with the President's coffin in the rotunda of the Capital, services in St. Matthew Catholic Cathedral, crosses and symbols of Catholicism everywhere and yet no one's constitutional rights to honour their President free of religious symbolism was an issue.
    Why would it be? Kennedy was Catholic, and wanted a Catholic funeral, and there could be no thought that this was anything except his personal belief.
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    Re: Football team forced to remove crosses from helmets

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Because equating a Presidential Catholic funeral and Jim Crow makes sense....
    I wouldn't expect you to understand. There's critical thinking involved.
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    You have no empirical evidence backing up your false assertion. You are simply conjecturing based on a whim...
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    Re: Football team forced to remove crosses from helmets

    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    That was 51 years ago. I'd like to think we've grown a bit.

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    Never fails - when someone on the left can't counter a legitimate argument, they immediately trot out race and imply racism where none exists.
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    Re: Football team forced to remove crosses from helmets

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Never fails - when someone on the left can't counter a legitimate argument, they immediately trot out race and imply racism where none exists.
    That wasn't the point. But don't let that stop you from yelling fire!
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    Re: Football team forced to remove crosses from helmets

    Quote Originally Posted by pinqy View Post
    Why would it be? Kennedy was Catholic, and wanted a Catholic funeral, and there could be no thought that this was anything except his personal belief.
    It was a STATE funeral, not a private one.

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    Re: Football team forced to remove crosses from helmets

    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    I wouldn't expect you to understand. There's critical thinking involved.
    You're right - that deep deep level of stupidity in a post is beyond my understanding. Congrats tho!
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Football team forced to remove crosses from helmets

    Quote Originally Posted by pinqy View Post
    Why would it be? Kennedy was Catholic, and wanted a Catholic funeral, and there could be no thought that this was anything except his personal belief.
    But you just previously stated that the players aren't allowed to mourn according to their wishes and beliefs. The two young men who died and who are being honored were Christians - don't you think it would be their personal beliefs that would dictate the type of honor? And the father of one of the boys being honored wants the crosses to stay.
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    Re: Football team forced to remove crosses from helmets

    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    That wasn't the point. But don't let that stop you from yelling fire!
    So you just use race and racism as a debating tool, is that it? That's a terrific way to minimize both the issue at hand and racism - well done.
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    Re: Football team forced to remove crosses from helmets

    If it were permanently part of the uniform, I would object too. As a personalized sticker for each person who died for a single season, and it being optional for each wearer, then I heartily approve.
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