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Ted Cruz Gets Boos From Christians by Praising Israel[W:329]

Re: Ted Cruz Gets Boos From Christians by Praising Israel

It would appear to me that Libertarians and Conservatives that are actually Republican voters in sheep's clothing
are having a difficult discussion with each other over Israel.

With Rand Paul against foreign aid to Israel, Ted Cruz sees an opening to appease Sheldon Adelson.
And of course Rand Paul is now a warhawk on ISIL while being an isolationist his entire political career.

Cruz is trying to take a page out of Paul's book, tacking to a position opposite of Paul's.
Cruz also recognizes that over 70% of Jewish-Americans vote for Democrats, and their voter turn-out is always high.

What Cruz will learn before 2016 is that he's trying to play the wrong demographic.
Since that's what this is; the GOP Presidential primaries have already started between Cruz and Paul .
 
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Someone incessantly whining in this thread about another poster calling Ted Cruz a "retard" is recognized for what it is.
The height of hypocricy given what the USA has seen its President/Senate Majority Leader/House Minority Leader called by this very poster.
Even likening those three to Charlie Manson .
 
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Gathomas88 said:
That's weird. Evangelicals are usually among Israeli's strongest supporters, in my experience.
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vesper said:
Cruz expressed defending Israel and defending Christians in the Middle East go hand-in-hand.
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Fenton said:
Given the list of speakers at that Conference its no surprise that a substantial portion if the audience may embrace anti-Semitism.
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Say there’s a new “Popular Party” in the United States. The “Popular Party” policy initiatives include building a gigantic border fence down the middle of your city -- between you and your workplace. It’s staffed with exhausted, rude border control guards, who interrogate you every time you go to work, which causes the queue for the crossing to add an hour or more to your daily commute. There’s also a new policy that establishes a harsh customs process, which effectively has become an embargo on bringing even basic necessities and household goods to your home. The grocery store across the street barely has anything in stock, and even if they do, it costs an arm and a leg. Good luck on getting your hands on anything valuable! Have you bent over today for the "Popular Party" and their miserable policies?

If you don't live in the sames states as the "Popular Party?" Well “Popular Party” still conscripts the extended members of your family, which is tragic, because they get into an extended few week long fight every couple of years that turns the next state over into rubble. They’re bureaucratic, tone deaf to the larger community’s concerns and the party leaders are clueless idiots. Basically, it's the world's largest and worst iteration of the American TSA, where the policies are mental and their sole purpose only seems to be to make everyone's life more difficult.

Now imagine, Ted Cruz, the dolt comes to an event concerning the plight of Middle Eastern Christians, who are stuck in the path of ISIS, or are seeing their communities destroyed in Syria, or are being harassed in Egypt, and all of the other tragic events happening across the Middle East. Mr. Cruz, the dolt, comes and starts tangentially preaching how awesome the "Popular Party" is and how wonderful it is that they're making your and your community's life absolutely miserable. Maybe you should stand up a cheer at how smart Ted Cruz is, and not throw rotten eggs at the hot air windbag?

Of course, it's also great now that American evangelical Christians have no comprehension of exactly WHAT you're booing about, to the point where they're concocting statements like "They are Hezzbollah supporters!" or there's a "substantial portion of the audience may embrace anti-Semitism!"

Essential it's summarized beautifully by Jasper:

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And I find it insulting when pro-Israel speakers equate support for the current administration in Israel and their policies with support for Jews. Heck, lots of Jews in Israel don't support the current administration or its policies. Opposing Israeli policies says really nothing at all about whether a person is anti-Semitic. Same way lots of Americans can't stand Obama - are people opposed to Americans if they oppose Obama or some action by the Obama administration? Do Obama haters hate America?
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EnigmaO01 said:
The man is a narcissistic arrogant assclown. And he was clueless about his audience. Most people that know anything about public speaking know you don't say things to offend your audience.
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or Ted has REAL convictions on what he feels storngly about and is man of great ethics and values and sees the big picture..unlike so many

I also beleive there were "plants" in the audience there to make a scene..
 
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Henry David said:
I too am surprised to read this. Glad to hear it, but surprised. For this "lost my religion" guy, Israel has done more to harm this country than any other I can think of, most of it from the inside.
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Try Iran..
 
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Montecresto said:
It's been a long time coming, but we can't jump into that here, the mods don't like it.
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so you support Iran and Syria?.. and want to pump money into Hamas..
 
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EnigmaO01 said:
The man is a narcissistic arrogant assclown. And he was clueless about his audience. Most people that know anything about public speaking know you don't say things to offend your audience.
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This thread is not about Obama..

supporting Israel is "offensive" to...who?
 
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Travis007 said:
so you support Iran and Syria?.. and want to pump money into Hamas..
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I think the topic was the support/money, pumped into Israel. Check the polls, on a good note, Israel is slipping in regards to American support. As pointed out by my daughter at university, the younger crowd sees things much differently, and soon they will be in leadership.
 
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Travis007 said:
This thread is not about Obama..

supporting Israel is "offensive" to...who?
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To people that respect sovereign borders, the rule of law, international law, the Geneva convention, proportionate military response, UN resolutions, the ICC and everything else that works together to influence peace and justice.
 
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Montecresto said:
I think the topic was the support/money, pumped into Israel. Check the polls, on a good note, Israel is slipping in regards to American support. As pointed out by my daughter at university, the younger crowd sees things much differently, and soon they will be in leadership.
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of course.. your daughter is being indoctrinate into the sesspool of "wackademia" where only progressive hate is tolerated.. the same mentality that does nto allow Conservative to even have a voice without a mob attacking it on campus.. but radical muslims are allowed.

Im sure you are quite proud and happy that that is the agenda
 
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Travis007 said:
of course.. your daughter is being indoctrinate into the sesspool of "wackademia" where only progressive hate is tolerated.. the same mentality that does nto allow Conservative to even have a voice without a mob attacking it on campus.. but radical muslims are allowed.

Im sure you are quite proud and happy that that is the agenda
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I'm happy to see America back away from its traditional support of Israeli aggression in the ME, sure.
 
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Montecresto said:
To people that respect sovereign borders, the rule of law, international law, the Geneva convention, proportionate military response, UN resolutions, the ICC and everything else that works together to influence peace and justice.
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You are 100 % wrong.. but You have proven to be anti semetic and anti Israel..this is a long pattern with you..you simply run anti semitic canards and lies..

whats "proportional"?.. how many Jews exist period? how many need to be slaughtered on the ongoing attacks on that soveriegn state of Israel?

If Iran nuke Israel is that "proprtional" or their proxies of Hamas? how is Hamas even armed? how did the become armed? should Israel give a govement of terrorist fly over conrtol of territory to hold Isreal hostage?..Im sure you are raging that the Kurds were slaughered and their land taken


to the subject I have no doubt that this was staged mob reaction and plants int he audience
 
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Montecresto said:
To people that respect sovereign borders, the rule of law, international law, the Geneva convention, proportionate military response, UN resolutions, the ICC and everything else that works together to influence peace and justice.
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so Hamas making tunnels into Isreal is not breaching of borders?.. Ted was right.. this is the mentality of the left here.. that Jews being killed is "Ok". that there is alwys some fake justificatgion for killing Jews and saying "oh we only hate Israel"...

ISIS thrives on this mentality..
 
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Montecresto said:
It's been a long time coming, but we can't jump into that here, the mods don't like it.
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The trend your referring to is simply a false narrative built on the pretense that israel is an aggressor.

The reality is that Israel, like every other Sovereign Nation has the right to defend itself.
 
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Montecresto said:
I'm happy to see America back away from its traditional support of Israeli aggression in the ME, sure.
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what "aggression"? the agression to preserve life nad liberty for all within Israel? Jordan and Egypt seem to like their neighbor Israel.. actually every country that borders with Israel has no issue with ANY Israeli "agrression "??? you know why? its DOES NOT EXIST..Israel seeks nothing more than peace

how are the gays and women doing in Iran?.. Is Isreal setting up proxy armies like Hamas and Hezbollah?..

hows Syria going?..how are the Kurds today? Hows Turkey going..how are the Coptic Christians doing?
 
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Travis007 said:
You are 100 % wrong.. but You have proven to be anti semetic and anti Israel..this is a long pattern with you..

whats "proportional"?.. how many Jews exist period? how many need to be slaughtered on the ongoing attacks on that soveriegn state of Israel?

If Iran nuke Israel is that "proprtional" or their proxies of Hamas? how is Hamas even armed? how did the become armed? should Israel give a govement of terrorist fly over conrtol of territory to hold Isreal hostage?..Im sure you are raging that the Kurds were slaughered and their land taken


to the subject I have no doubt that this was staged mob reaction and plants int he audience
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Pointing out Israeli crimes is anti-crime. You always loose when you start calling people anti-Semetic.
 
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Travis007 said:
what "aggresion"? the agression to preserve life nad liberty for all with Israel? Jordan and Egypt seem to like their neighbor Israel.. actually every country that borders with Israel has no issue with ANY Israelie "agrression " you know why? its DOES NOT EXIST..Israel seeks nothing more than peace

how are the gays and women doing in Iran?.. Is Isreal setting up proxy armies like Hamas and Hezbollah?..

hows Syria going?..how are the Kurds today?
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If you are unaware of Israeli aggression, you betray your own bias. Something in the neighbourhood of 90 chapter six UN resolutions could enlighten you.
 
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Travis007 said:
what "aggresion"? the agression to preserve life nad liberty for all with Israel?
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So you've bought the phony "Israel" card Cruz is trying to play?
Cruz is looking for a billionaire sugar-daddy like Adelson.

Kamikaze Kruz, as coined by the conservative WSJ for his legendary antics shutting down the gubmit,
is my hope for your GOP Presidential candidate .
 
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Montecresto said:
If you are unaware of Israeli aggression, you betray your own bias. Something in the neighbourhood of 90 chapter six UN resolutions could enlighten you.
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hahhahahaa... cmon now.. the UN is a sesspool of despots and scum..

get it out of my city..

check EYEONTHEUN......

who you think youre jivin?
 
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Montecresto said:
Pointing out Israeli crimes is anti-crime. You always loose when you start calling people anti-Semetic.
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sure.. link me to this "enlightenment"...show us all..

links...
 
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NIMBY said:
So you've bought the phony "Israel" card Cruz is trying to play?
Cruz is looking for a billionaire sugar-daddy like Adelson.

Kamikaze Kruz, as coined by the conservative WSJ for his legendary antics shutting down the gubmit,
is my hope for your GOP Presidential candidate .
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no hes not.. Ted Cruz is a good man period with real clarity that many just dont want to see..

what we see is the vileness of the left to try to destroy him.. this is "destroy like Palin 101"
 
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Montecresto said:
Pointing out Israeli crimes is anti-crime. You always loose when you start calling people anti-Semetic.
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I must have missed your tears on Hamas killing and bombing and the wars against Israel..

why dont read the PLO and Hamas charters.. and then take a walk in Israels shoes..
 
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Fenton said:
The trend your referring to is simply a false narrative built on the pretense that israel is an aggressor.

The reality is that Israel, like every other Sovereign Nation has the right to defend itself.
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The trend is NO FALSE narrative.

For example, in a post titled "The Shifting Israel Debate," Andrew Sullivan makes a convincing argument that the debate is changing for the media, and a poll published Tuesday by Pew and picked up by our colleagues at The Fix appears to show that young Americans are increasingly skeptical of Israel's politics.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...e-that-american-support-for-israel-is-waning/
 
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Travis007 said:
You are 100 % wrong.. but You have proven to be anti semetic and anti Israel..this is a long pattern with you..
you simply run anti semitic canards and lies..
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You do Israel and Jewish-Americans a complete disservice when you accuse others of being anti-Semitic and anti-Israel.
Yer the last person they want on their team.

And people like Cruz continue to be the reason why Jewish-American voters, who vote in high %, vote 74% DEM.
They don't like being used and are a helluva lot smarter than this guy playing crass politics using them .
 
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