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    Re: Ted Cruz Gets Boos From Christians by Praising Israel

    I'm not much of a Ted Cruz fan... He's far too religious in my opinion, to be a US Senator. A congressman, sure, but anything higher up than that, nope.

    I'm not a Christian, but I have great respect for those who are. I believe that having someone in high office who's a Christian or a religious person in general, is an asset rather than a liability. When it comes to mixing religion and political office for senators, VP's, presidents, or cabinet members, too much religion can potentially be disastrous. Ted Cruz is someone I consider too religious to be elected to high office. He's someone that I feel has the potential to put serving his faith ahead of serving the nation, and that's something that can't be allowed to happen.

    Now with that said, what Ted Cruz did and said on that stage made me stand up and applaud the man. When those anti-Semitic, middle eastern bigots started spewing their hatred, Cruz could have done what 99% of the opportunistic political weasels we have in Washington would have done, and tried to placate them, not ruffle any feathers, and played politician, but that's not what Cruz did. Without hesitation, he immediately stood up for what was right, by flat out refusing to either accept or ignore the hatred they were spewing, calling those idiots as well as the entire organization to task for their hate, and without blinking an eye, cut his ties with them and walked off that stage.

    That was one of the finest examples of principled behavior by a politician that I've seen in recent memory, and even though I would never support the man for president, he's definitely earned my respect as a human being. I just wish we had a few more politicians in Washington who stood on real principals, rather than the phony, self serving politically crafted principals that make me want to puke every time I hear them uttered.

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    Re: Ted Cruz Gets Boos From Christians by Praising Israel

    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    I find this a quite interesting turn of events, since evangelical Christians seem to form the backbone of the right wing base and as a backbone of the Tea Party (an even righter wing base, of which Cruz has previously been a darling). A beef with Israel seems quite out of character for them... in fact, nearly blasphemous.

    The event organizers brushed the booing off on "a few politically motivated opportunists" but that really doesn't jibe with Cruz walking out.
    The man is a narcissistic arrogant assclown. And he was clueless about his audience. Most people that know anything about public speaking know you don't say things to offend your audience.

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    Re: Ted Cruz Gets Boos From Christians by Praising Israel

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    Of course there is never anything wrong with frightened children booing and behaving like orangutangs, it's the fault of the speaker for saying **** they disagree with.

    Look. Cruz's social policies are aberrant, middle ages crap the world has left behind. I am thankful his parents removed him from my country lest he find another mad man to agree with him. I abhor Christians who warp themselves in a flag and claim it's the Cross.

    But I know enough about Mr. Cruz that he too supports the concept of "I may not agree with what you say, but will defend to my death your right to say it." That is allegedly the core of what is America, one of the foundations of freedom.

    But here we are branding this guy, putting him down because he was denied that right to speak his mind. FFS, whenever In hear these grunts bring God into the equation I want to vomit. But the man is a senator, duly elected, who represents a significant following in America, he DID NOT deserve to be disrespected so rudely because his views happen to be different to these clown who claim to understand what is democracy and the need for dissenting opinions.

    Shame. Freedom has been dealt yet another blow.

    Bull****. Freedom and the Constitution don't suffer if a retard is called out. Offending sensibilities is not unconstitutional.


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    Re: Ted Cruz Gets Boos From Christians by Praising Israel

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Maybe you should educate yourself about what the Tea Party is and what they stand for before you condemn them as "social conservative evangelical nuts".
    I'll repeat my question: name one popular Tea Partier that is not an evangelical nut.

    As a supposed libertarian, you should have much in common with them.
    I don't. Tea Partiers only overlap with the twisted and perverted Republican-ified version of libertarianism. Regular libertarians don't have a whole lot in common and left-libertarians, such as myself, don't have much of anything in common.

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    Re: Ted Cruz Gets Boos From Christians by Praising Israel

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    Now with that said, what Ted Cruz did and said on that stage made me stand up and applaud the man. When those anti-Semitic, middle eastern bigots started spewing their hatred....
    Ok, that's clear enough. Those that don't march in lockstep with Israel and their policies are "anti-Semitic....bigots...spewing hatred." Which includes many Israeli and American...Jews.

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    Re: Ted Cruz Gets Boos From Christians by Praising Israel

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    The man is a narcissistic arrogant assclown. And he was clueless about his audience. Most people that know anything about public speaking know you don't say things to offend your audience.
    Personally I feel those present at the event that claim to be Christians and support Hezbollah would be the "assclowns". Someone calling themselves Christians while giving support to a murderous terrorist group hardly passes the laughing test. And obviously you don't seem to be aware not everyone present at the event agreed with the booing Hezbollah supporters. The Assyrian Christians didn't.
    Assyrian Christians Support Cruz After Walkout

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    Re: Ted Cruz Gets Boos From Christians by Praising Israel

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    Ok, that's clear enough. Those that don't march in lockstep with Israel and their policies are "anti-Semitic....bigots...spewing hatred." Which includes many Israeli and American...Jews.
    How can anyone question God's people...The Israeli government is an extension of God. Otherwise why the blanket zero-criticism policy.


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    Re: Ted Cruz Gets Boos From Christians by Praising Israel

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    Personally I feel those present at the event that claim to be Christians and support Hezbollah would be the "assclowns". Someone calling themselves Christians while giving support to a murderous terrorist group hardly passes the laughing test. And obviously you don't seem to be aware not everyone present at the event agreed with the booing Hezbollah supporters. The Assyrian Christians didn't.
    Assyrian Christians Support Cruz After Walkout
    How do know that Hezbollah supports were the only one's that booed Cruz?

    Let me ask you a question of what Cruz said that got an off reaction. Cruz said that "Israel is the greatest ally of Christians".

    Do you agree with that Cruz' statement? If so, exactly how is Israel an ally to Christians? How has Israel acted to show their allegiance with Christians?


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    Re: Ted Cruz Gets Boos From Christians by Praising Israel

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    Of course there is never anything wrong with frightened children booing and behaving like orangutangs, it's the fault of the speaker for saying **** they disagree with.

    Look. Cruz's social policies are aberrant, middle ages crap the world has left behind. I am thankful his parents removed him from my country lest he find another mad man to agree with him. I abhor Christians who warp themselves in a flag and claim it's the Cross.

    But I know enough about Mr. Cruz that he too supports the concept of "I may not agree with what you say, but will defend to my death your right to say it." That is allegedly the core of what is America, one of the foundations of freedom.

    But here we are branding this guy, putting him down because he was denied that right to speak his mind. FFS, whenever In hear these grunts bring God into the equation I want to vomit. But the man is a senator, duly elected, who represents a significant following in America, he DID NOT deserve to be disrespected so rudely because his views happen to be different to these clown who claim to understand what is democracy and the need for dissenting opinions.

    Shame. Freedom has been dealt yet another blow.
    It's the fault of the speaker for making ill informed statements and focussing on a separate ethnic group to who the event is supposed to raise awareness for.

    He then proceeded to childishly shut down the crowds reaction by playing the anti Semite card.

    He was free to make his speech and I suspect he got exactly what he wanted out of it.

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    Re: Ted Cruz Gets Boos From Christians by Praising Israel

    Quote Originally Posted by 1750Texan View Post
    How do know that Hezbollah supports were the only one's that booed Cruz?

    Let me ask you a question of what Cruz said that got an off reaction. Cruz said that "Israel is the greatest ally of Christians".

    Do you agree with that Cruz' statement? If so, exactly how is Israel an ally to Christians? How has Israel acted to show their allegiance with Christians?
    Cruz expressed defending Israel and defending Christians in the Middle East go hand-in-hand. It is no coincidence that the "friends" of Israel in the world are nations where Christianity is the dominant faith among their citizens. In many of the Muslim countries it is common practice for Christians and Jews to live in fear of retaliation of their faith or economically be forced to live in poverty. The Coptic Christians in Egypt as just one minor example face it daily as do many other dominantly Muslim countries. Over the decades the Egyptians became more influenced by Muslim "organizations" like the Brotherhood and the intolerance of Christians and Jews grew. Today one would be hardpressed to still find a synagogue still open and we frequently hear of Christians being slaughtered. It isn't Jews killing Christians but Muslims killing Christians. In Israel you find several dedications to Christians for their sacrifices made for the Jewish people. In Israel people are not slaughtered for their faith. All three major faiths are represented in that little country without fear of being beheaded, hung, burned alive, or stoned to death.
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