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    Re: Ted Cruz Gets Boos From Christians by Praising Israel

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    Yet you did, as everybody can see so plainly.

    Perhaps you have been led to believe that westerners will just accept any sort of taqiyya you offer, but most see right through it. I would suggest you try some honesty here.

    You come across many times as a propagandist.

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    Re: Ted Cruz Gets Boos From Christians by Praising Israel

    Quote Originally Posted by Henry David View Post
    You come across many times as a propagandist.
    Speaking the truth about haters and conspiracist idiocy often has that effect.
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    Re: Ted Cruz Gets Boos From Christians by Praising Israel

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    Speaking the truth about haters and conspiracist idiocy often has that effect.
    Exactly!

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    Re: Ted Cruz Gets Boos From Christians by Praising Israel

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    That wasn't the question.
    He said the following:

    ď[The crowd showed] a shameful display of bigotry and hatred.Ē

    Later, in reference to the crowd he said, ďAnti-Semitism is a corrosive evil, and it reared its ugly head tonight,Ē
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    Re: Ted Cruz Gets Boos From Christians by Praising Israel

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoist View Post
    While most drug law supporters will concede that drugs/abuse could never be fully eradicated, my argument is that the policies actually make the problem far worse. By forcing the product underground, we see many of the symptoms of the Prohibition Era.

    Enforcing speed limits does not create a black market for highways and homicides violate the rights of individuals. So I understand what you are saying, but its apples and oranges.


    I whole heartedly agree but the analogy to speed limits is inappropriate, it is indeed apples and oranges. This tactic tough is normal for a group who demand the right to carry weapons, but say the ban on soft drugs is necessary.

    The best and perhaps only valid comparison is the stupid prohibition of alcohol, bad for the nation and good for the mafia. The other might be cigarettes where they know outlawing them will only create a black market trade
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    Re: Ted Cruz Gets Boos From Christians by Praising Israel

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    The other might be cigarettes where they know outlawing them will only create a black market trade
    Here in Chicago, we already have a black market trade going on for cigs. Many argue it is because of the super high tax. Now, I'm all for taxing them since they put a clear burden on our health system, but there is always a breaking point.
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    Re: Ted Cruz Gets Boos From Christians by Praising Israel

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    Speaking the truth about haters and conspiracist idiocy often has that effect.

    Actually the opposite.

    Truth resonates as truth, propaganda requires the shouting down of opponents; a great tactic is to isolate them on one specific nuance, and belabor the point.

    I wonder if we could get back to talking about US politics in view of today's issues, and where Israel fits into that, especially with regard to the Christian right. What I see here is a months old personal squabble extending from a moderator-closed thread that barely meets the rules of the forum.
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    Re: Ted Cruz Gets Boos From Christians by Praising Israel

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Considering the fact that there are plenty of non Jewish Semites, you're flat wrong on this.
    Your claim that "Jews have tried to own the anti-Semite label" is anti-Semitic on its own right.
    You are a very confused individual.
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    Re: Ted Cruz Gets Boos From Christians by Praising Israel

    So I've been away for a bit due to some family business...however during which I found out some interesting information here.

    My father was actually on the security detail for this particular event and actually helped escort Cruz away. He had some interesting insights.

    1st - He estimated the booing was coming from maybe 10% of the crowd at the event, maybe 20% at max. They were definitely vocal, but it was definitely not an overwhelmingly large group of individuals within the audience booing.

    2nd - This was a gathering of representatives of multiple ethnicities of middle eastern christians. From speaking with some of the people who organized the event, apparently the primary individuals upset by Cruz's statements were Palestinian Christians. Naturally, there was ethnic animosity there over the notion of supporting Israel. The issue was less regarding Christian / Jew and more to do with Palestine / Israel.

    3rd - My father's not normally a conspiracy theorist type of guy, but he indicated he wouldn't have been shocked if this had been mildly orchastrated by the Cruz camp. Prior to going up on stage Cruz actually had some of his younger female staffers specifically wait outside of the hall, where they inevitably wouldn't have had issues getting out of the group (some of his male staffers were in the room). From the way certain things went down and indications made by some in attendance, he said he wouldn't be too surprised if Cruz was simply using this as a means of strenghtening some ties and support from the pro-israel crowd, banking on the fact that this was a relatively small group that'd be unlikely to hurt his standing with Christians. He wasn't suggesting that was definitely what occured; rather, he simply indicated based on some of what happened it wouldn't shock him if that was the case.

    He said Cruz ultimately was relatively nice, though definite came off as more of a normal "politician" than others in terms of his interactions with everyone both in front and behind the scenes.

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