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    Re: Obama: "ISIL Is Not Islamic"

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Well there wasn't much "democratic" about the "German Democratic Republic" or the "Democratic People's Republic of Korea."

    (That's East Germany and North Korea, in case you weren't clear).

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    Re: Obama: "ISIL Is Not Islamic"

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Without Islam, ISIS or ISIL wouldn't exist.
    Without Christianity, Westboro Baptist Church wouldn't exist.

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    Re: Obama: "ISIL Is Not Islamic"

    Quote Originally Posted by Texmex View Post
    Without Christianity, Westboro Baptist Church wouldn't exist.
    If only ISIS were as dangerous as the Westboro Baptist Church...

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    Re: Obama: "ISIL Is Not Islamic"

    Quote Originally Posted by Texmex View Post
    Without Christianity, Westboro Baptist Church wouldn't exist.
    Very true.
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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    Re: Obama: "ISIL Is Not Islamic"

    Quote Originally Posted by rcart76 View Post
    The KKK origin is Christian. So by this logic KKK = Christianity?
    When you can prove that large numbers of people of Christian faiths support the actions/efforts of the KKK just as large numbers of people of Islamic and Muslim faiths support the actions/efforts of ISIL/ISIS/IS then you might have a point.
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    Re: Obama: "ISIL Is Not Islamic"

    Quote Originally Posted by Unrepresented View Post
    They are made up of people that self identify as muslims. That doesn't make them Islamic any more than my favorite hip hop group Young Black Teenagers is made up of well, young black teenagers.

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    this iis just epic fail all over it.

    they are islamic because they follow islam. so yes they are an islamic group.
    they are not different than the taliban or hamas or any other islamic terrorist group.

    they still follow islam.

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    Re: Obama: "ISIL Is Not Islamic"

    Quote Originally Posted by Texmex View Post
    Without Christianity, Westboro Baptist Church wouldn't exist.
    They could call themselves anything they want and still be a hate group.

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    Re: Obama: "ISIL Is Not Islamic"

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    When you can prove that large numbers of people of Christian faiths support the actions/efforts of the KKK just as large numbers of people of Islamic and Muslim faiths support the actions/efforts of ISIL/ISIS/IS then you might have a point.
    Certainly, the case can be made that the KKK is a Christian organization. It's beliefs and teachings are based on a particular interpretation of the Bible and, while I haven't done any research into the group in many years, their website right now is filled with Christian sayings and Bible quotes. A movement doesn't have to be large or popular in order to be religious.
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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    Re: Obama: "ISIL Is Not Islamic"

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Agreed. Perhaps he was using the obvious fallacy thinking most people just aren't educated enough to see through the fallacy.
    That's his constituency. He is still a high principal using a professorial tone to say something really stupid.

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    Re: Obama: "ISIL Is Not Islamic"

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    They could call themselves anything they want and still be a hate group.
    A hate group without the propensity to sell women into slavery and cut the heads off of journalist. When compared with ISIS, I'll take those whack jobs at Westboro any day of the week.

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