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    Re: Obama: "ISIL Is Not Islamic"

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    Re: Obama: "ISIL Is Not Islamic"

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    ISIL=Islamic State of Iraq/Levant.
    My bad, was mixing up ISIS and ISIL. Maybe we should just call them ISISIL instead?
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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    Re: Obama: "ISIL Is Not Islamic"

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    So if you believe they're Islamic, does that mean they are?
    I don't "believe" they're Islamic, they self-identify as Islamic. So yes, that means that they are, or at the very least, that they think that they are. Since there is no definition of what constitutes a Muslim, I'm entirely fine to let anyone who claims to be one actually be one.
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    Re: Obama: "ISIL Is Not Islamic"

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    Umm yes it is.

    ISIS or ISIL

    Islamic state of Iraq and Syria or Islamic state in Iraq and Levant (which is a much larger territory than just syria. it includes lebanon and Jordan.

    This group is a very fundimentalist islamic group. so yes they are islamic.
    They are made up of people that self identify as muslims. That doesn't make them Islamic any more than my favorite hip hop group Young Black Teenagers is made up of well, young black teenagers.

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    Re: Obama: "ISIL Is Not Islamic"

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    I've got better things to do with my life than try to figure out what goes on in Obama's mind. I'm quite satisfied to limit my involvement with Obama to what the man says and then commenting on the idiocy of it.
    Not unlike the lefts response during Bush's tenure.
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    Re: Obama: "ISIL Is Not Islamic"

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Well there wasn't much "democratic" about the "German Democratic Republic" or the "Democratic People's Republic of Korea."

    (That's East Germany and North Korea, in case you weren't clear).
    These excuses are often used by leftists to claim that what groups call themselves doesn't necessarily reflect who they really are, and that can occasionally be the case. But in this instance there is really no doubt who these people are nor that they are following the teachings of the Koran.

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    Re: Obama: "ISIL Is Not Islamic"

    Quote Originally Posted by longview View Post
    As distasteful as Westboro has been, So far as I know they have not been accredited
    with any beheadings.
    If Westboro had the ability to kill and get away with it, you don't think they would? Remember their signs like: "God hates fags" or "Burn in hell fag?" These despicable people would do far worse if they were able to do it.

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    Re: Obama: "ISIL Is Not Islamic"

    Quote Originally Posted by kramercat View Post
    "Now letís make two things clear: ISIL is not Islamic. No religion condones the killing of innocents, and the vast majority of ISILís victims have been Muslim."

    Oh really? There has been an ongoing war, even before ISIS, with Sunni and Shia Muslims killing each other, and both killing Christians - so exactly who is innocent and who is guilty?

    Whether you like it or not, the name of the terrorist group is 'Islamic State'. They want a government governed strictly by Sharia, or Islamic, law. So yes, they are Islamic - the most fundamentalist form of Islam, but Islam. The Muslims are waiting for their 'Mahdi' - who is the anti-Christ. The Islamic religion itself is anti-Christian. It was created to directly oppose the notion that Jesus Christ died for the sins of mankind, and the Koran says explicitly that Jesus Christ is not the Son of God. So who is so adamantly opposed to Christ? I mean, there is no other religion that takes the religious text of another religion and twists it around to mean something else. The Virgin Mary appears in the Koran, as well as Jesus... only their roles have been changed. Those who think that they are following the same God of Abraham are mistaken - Allah is the ancient moon-god, and the crescent and star derive from him. So who is it that desperately wants mankind to NOT accept Jesus Christ as Savior - why the devil, of course.

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    He's lost it.

    To be fair I suspect he is trying to say that these Muslims do not follow the true faith, that Islam is a religion of peace, which it is. So if Christianity and a lot of bodies have been wracked up, Christian against Christian.

    He is playing to American Muslims who are feeling some heat.

    However, his choice of words, used in his "I am the BOSS' fashion presents a very stupid message where he appears to be waging war against extremist militants by declaring they are not something they have clearly said they are and are continuing the tradition of killing each other a la the middle ages, which is where most of the practitioners of the faith appear to live, the middle ages where hangings, baby killing, beheadings and burning at the stake were very popular.

    But once again his arrogance defeats him. As president he believes he is the expert in all things, from global warming to Ebola to Islam, where what he should be doing is having his "experts" explain how this sect/movement/terrorist cell is different from those of the faith now living in the US.

    He hasn't figured out that 60% of Americans don't trust him anymore and he needs to close the pie hole
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    Re: Obama: "ISIL Is Not Islamic"

    Quote Originally Posted by sawdust View Post
    He was brought up a muslim, went to school in madrassas, and believes that he has to be careful not to inflame billions of other Muslims by painting them all with the same brush. I get that. The problem is that most Muslims share some beliefs with the radicals. Few Muslims support Israel's right to exist as an example, even the so called moderates living in the Middle East. The moderates may not believe in head chopping but there aren't many moderates that rise up in support of defeating the radicals and the radicals will not be defeated until it is seen as uncool in common Islamic societies.

    I don't think Obama is an idiot. He just doesn't have enough common sense to pour piss out of a boot with the instructions on the heel.
    Wow, what garbage!

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    Re: Obama: "ISIL Is Not Islamic"

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    Oh NIMBY. Dont' be such a drama queen. You don't have to do battle. Live, love and laugh. It's much, much better for you. And besides, ISIS is Islamic in origen - or did you think they got their inspiration from Jerry Falwell?
    The KKK origin is Christian. So by this logic KKK = Christianity?

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