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    Re: Obama: "ISIL Is Not Islamic"

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    A very poor diversion off of one of his lines about Christianity to bash Catholics.
    Why didn't you point out the failings of the rest of the Christian religions?
    Such as the gathering that booed Sen. Te4d Cruz off the stage for tring to divides Christians and Jews .
    Good morning NIMBY

    Tell you what, I won't tell you what comments or connections to make and you won't have to try to dictate what points I will make in my comments, deal?
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    Re: Obama: "ISIL Is Not Islamic"

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Yes, I mean ISIL doesn't mean "Islamic State of Syria and the Levant" or anything. Nope, nothing Islamic there!
    ISIL=Islamic State of Iraq/Levant.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Obama: "ISIL Is Not Islamic"

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Yet he became president, not once, but twice. And he has been a Christian for 2-3 decades. Or was the guy that just beheaded a woman in London, who had converted to Muslim five years ago, really still a Christian, or whatever he had been prior to his conversion?
    This brings up a good point that regardless of the religion, crazy is crazy, and fanaticism seems to be the problem more than a particular religion. OT has some pretty rough solutions for problems that we don't follow because of our laws and separation of church and state.
    Einstein, "science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind."

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    Re: Obama: "ISIL Is Not Islamic"

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    How do you prove they're not? How do you prove which, if any, Christian denomination is or is not Christian? Because you believe it?
    So if you believe they're Islamic, does that mean they are?


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    Re: Obama: "ISIL Is Not Islamic"

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Or you have trouble understanding. Apparently that's a common problem among Conservatives today.
    LOL

    Your really on it today 88. So lets see:

    ISIS is to Islam as Westboro is to Christianity


    As I understood it, you're suggesting Westboro doesn't represent Christianity any more than ISIS represent Islam.

    Agreed, Westboro doesn't represent Christianity. But ISIL? It most certainly does represent Islam. Obviously it does. A wicked warped version, but most certainly to it's follower, Islam for sure. That may not represent how some people want Islam to be viewed for, but that is just delusional thinking.

    If tens of thousands joined Westboro, it wouldn't be possible to argue they don't represent Christianity, at least in the warped twisted way the view it.

    But to make such a nonexistent comparison, and then seek to offend to defend it, is pretty lame.

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    Re: Obama: "ISIL Is Not Islamic"

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Why would you say it's nonsense? How Christian is Westboro's actions?

    I don't know how many times I can say that I didn't compare Westboro to ISIS.

    "Corvette is to boat as dog poop is to food" is not saying that a Corvette is dog poop.
    Sorry Rocket - not buying this one - it was a nonsense statement because the analogy was so defective because the comparison was absurd. There is nothing in any other religion that is marginally close to what ISIS/ISIL/IS represents.
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    Re: Obama: "ISIL Is Not Islamic"

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    No, we can't. He's been praised for his ability to articulate a position. Not unlike Bush recently praised Clinton for the same, in fact if you had heard Bush licking on Clinton a couple days ago, you'd have thrown up in your mouth a little bit I'm sure CJ. But compared to Bush, both Clinton and Obama are miles ahead in vocabulary and articulation. Though everybody makes a gaff. Let me ask you, do you think that Obama thinks that IS is secular, or perhaps aligns themselves more with Krishna, or Zoroaster.
    I've got better things to do with my life than try to figure out what goes on in Obama's mind. I'm quite satisfied to limit my involvement with Obama to what the man says and then commenting on the idiocy of it.
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    Re: Obama: "ISIL Is Not Islamic"

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Or you have trouble understanding. Apparently that's a common problem among Conservatives today.

    Have you ever considered making an intelligent statement that distinguishes your position as more valid instead of all the simple-minded apologia? What's next -- "Conservaties are big pooopooheads?"

    If you understanding nothing at all more complex than "I gotta take the opposite position of conservatve", you really don't have much.
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    Re: Obama: "ISIL Is Not Islamic"

    Quote Originally Posted by Tettsuo View Post
    If you claim to be Christian, but don't believe Jesus is God, are you really Christian?
    If you claim to be a follower of Judism, but you don't observe the sabbath, are you really a follower of Judism?
    If you claim to be Buddist, but you don't believe in karma or reincarnation, are you Buddist?

    I think that's what Obama was saying. If you claim to be a follower of Islam, but you kill innocent children, are you really a follower of Islam? Obama is saying that ISIL is not because they do not actually follow important Islamic teachings.
    If I have to take a Muslims word for what Islam is, or what a Christian says it is, I would lean toward the Muslim. Unless Obama is still a Muslim, of course.

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    Re: Obama: "ISIL Is Not Islamic"

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    So if you believe they're Islamic, does that mean they are?
    They selected their own name. which probably reflects their beliefs and aspirations.

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