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    Re: Obama: "ISIL Is Not Islamic"

    A very poor diversion off of one of his lines about Christianity to bash Catholics.
    Why didn't you point out the failings of the rest of the Christian religions?
    Such as the gathering that booed Sen. Te4d Cruz off the stage for tring to divides Christians and Jews .
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    Funny how this same argument is never taken up when the left likes to point out that many Catholics of good faith support birth control, abortion, etc. You never claim that they're not really Catholics because they don't follow Catholic teachings.
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    Re: Obama: "ISIL Is Not Islamic"

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    That's nonsense, of course, but it's a cute line and good for a laugh.
    Why would you say it's nonsense? How Christian is Westboro's actions?

    I don't know how many times I can say that I didn't compare Westboro to ISIS.

    "Corvette is to boat as dog poop is to food" is not saying that a Corvette is dog poop.


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    Re: Obama: "ISIL Is Not Islamic"

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Again, I wasn't comparing Westboro to ISIS. Your SAT scores must have been atrocious.
    LOL

    Perhaps I need someone to interpret what you wrote much like the President is getting all his minions to explain what he said. Obviously a shortcoming for both of you, this inability to be understood.

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    Re: Obama: "ISIL Is Not Islamic"

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Well there wasn't much "democratic" about the "German Democratic Republic" or the "Democratic People's Republic of Korea."

    (That's East Germany and North Korea, in case you weren't clear).
    Without Islam, ISIS or ISIL wouldn't exist. There is no organization without the religion. The organization seeks to force their version of the religion on everyone by force. You will not find a single non-Muslim member of either ISIS or ISIL.

    But do try again.
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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    Re: Obama: "ISIL Is Not Islamic"

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Why is it that the supposedly most eloquent man to ever hold the office of President of the United States continuously has to have someone explain what he really meant to say?

    Can't we just acknowledge that the man is often just plainly idiotic and leave it at that?
    No, we can't. He's been praised for his ability to articulate a position. Not unlike Bush recently praised Clinton for the same, in fact if you had heard Bush licking on Clinton a couple days ago, you'd have thrown up in your mouth a little bit I'm sure CJ. But compared to Bush, both Clinton and Obama are miles ahead in vocabulary and articulation. Though everybody makes a gaff. Let me ask you, do you think that Obama thinks that IS is secular, or perhaps aligns themselves more with Krishna, or Zoroaster.
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    Re: Obama: "ISIL Is Not Islamic"

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Why would you say it's nonsense? How Christian is Westboro's actions?

    I don't know how many times I can say that I didn't compare Westboro to ISIS.

    "Corvette is to boat as dog poop is to food" is not saying that a Corvette is dog poop.
    According to the Phelps clan, extremely Christian. In fact, they'd likely argue that they are the only Christians out there doing it right. That's how all of religion works, that's why there are more than 33,000 distinct sects of Christianity, all of which think only they are right about their beliefs.
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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    Re: Obama: "ISIL Is Not Islamic"

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    LOL

    Perhaps I need someone to interpret what you wrote much like the President is getting all his minions to explain what he said. Obviously a shortcoming for both of you, this inability to be understood.
    Or you have trouble understanding. Apparently that's a common problem among Conservatives today.


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    Re: Obama: "ISIL Is Not Islamic"

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    According to the Phelps clan, extremely Christian. In fact, they'd likely argue that they are the only Christians out there doing it right. That's how all of religion works, that's why there are more than 33,000 distinct sects of Christianity, all of which think only they are right about their beliefs.
    But that doesn't mean they are. If I said they weren't very Christian, would you disagree?


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    Re: Obama: "ISIL Is Not Islamic"

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    But that doesn't mean they are. If I said they weren't very Christian, would you disagree?
    How do you prove they're not? How do you prove which, if any, Christian denomination is or is not Christian? Because you believe it?
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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    Re: Obama: "ISIL Is Not Islamic"

    Quote Originally Posted by sawdust View Post
    He was brought up a muslim, went to school in madrassas, and believes that he has to be careful not to inflame billions of other Muslims by painting them all with the same brush. I get that. The problem is that most Muslims share some beliefs with the radicals. Few Muslims support Israel's right to exist as an example, even the so called moderates living in the Middle East. The moderates may not believe in head chopping but there aren't many moderates that rise up in support of defeating the radicals and the radicals will not be defeated until it is seen as uncool in common Islamic societies.

    I don't think Obama is an idiot. He just doesn't have enough common sense to pour piss out of a boot with the instructions on the heel.
    Yet he became president, not once, but twice. And he has been a Christian for 2-3 decades. Or was the guy that just beheaded a woman in London, who had converted to Muslim five years ago, really still a Christian, or whatever he had been prior to his conversion?
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