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    Re: Obama: "ISIL Is Not Islamic"

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    It must have been the fault of the teleprompter. We know that The Silver Tongued Orator would not say anything this stupid on his own.
    Didn't say that. But reasonable people understand they should listen with a reasonable hear.

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    Re: Obama: "ISIL Is Not Islamic"

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    False, but thanks for playing. You should probably not be in the business of telling others what they think, since you're not very good at it.
    Well I have your reason pegged. You just cannot stand criticism of "Hussein" Obama.

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    Re: Obama: "ISIL Is Not Islamic"

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    There isn't just one, there are plenty. You can Google them yourself, I'm sure, but one of the most prominent is Abiding Truth Ministries, headed by Scott Lively, who was directly involved in influencing Ugandan Christians to push for the death-penalty-for-gays laws.
    So one group ..

    Avg. size, 10 members, all related.

    False equivocations are false.

    Ideas have outcomes.

    ISIL's outcome is murder death kill.

    Christians outcome is peace, love and justice. [citing fringe patriot sociopath groups is a deflection]

    (ISIL is not a fringe group, but a counter reaction to Western abuse and an implementation of Islam [not interpretation])

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    Re: Obama: "ISIL Is Not Islamic"

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Didn't say that. But reasonable people understand they should listen with a reasonable hear.
    This inept bumbler is the President of the United States and still needs his followers to decipher what he was really trying to say. It becomes ever more pathetic for both as time passes.

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    Re: Obama: "ISIL Is Not Islamic"

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    There isn't just one, there are plenty. You can Google them yourself, I'm sure, but one of the most prominent is Abiding Truth Ministries, headed by Scott Lively, who was directly involved in influencing Ugandan Christians to push for the death-penalty-for-gays laws.
    When it is you making the accusation it is you who should support that accusation.

    But this Scott Lively you mentioned, and his partner, are obvious nut cases. He did oppose the death penalty for Gays in Uganda, so that one part is incorrect,though he is still crazy and obviously not a disciple of The Golden Rule. It's odd also that Christians would join Muslims in their harsh treatment of Gay people.

    I couldn't find how many members they have.

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    Re: Obama: "ISIL Is Not Islamic"

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    That's total nonsense. There are plenty of U.S.-based Christian groups that are very adamantly for killing gay people, for instance. They just can't do it because secular society moderates their behavior. However, that doesn't stop them from going to places like Uganda, where a very heavily evangelical Christian population almost passed a death-penalty-for-gays law. They still passed a law requiring life in prison for any homosexual caught in the country. This isn't Islam, it's CHRISTIANITY!
    Not non-sense, but it just is.

    As I've already stated there are people/hate groups out there who will use certain passages of Biblical scripture to their advantage if it suits their agenda. It happens. Where I take issue with your comments above is there is a difference between religious zealots who take a literal view of religious tenants and apply them across the board to everyone (i.e., the Taliban on the more extreme side or the Roman Catholic Church on the more moderate, mild side) and there is the more practical religious legalism where the basic tenants of a religion are used as the foundation of Man's laws, i.e., the Ten Commandments applied here in America. We don't murder, steal, lie ("contempt or court"), commit adultery or even accept juvenile delinquency without knowing there are consequences to our actions. Taking your example of homosexuality, there are many laws on the books in several States across this country where sodomy is illegal, doesn't matter if such is committed between a man and his wife or two gay men. But do you see many arrests being made for such a sexual act except where it is committed against a child or in the case of rape or sexual abuse? No.

    I'll grant you there are extreme views on all sides on a multitude of immoral and/or unlawful acts, some based on common sense others because society at large called for such and still others because the immoral behavior is rooted in religious tenants. Some countries take it to the extreme, some don't. All I can tell you is be glad you live here and not there.
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    Re: Obama: "ISIL Is Not Islamic"

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Didn't say that. But reasonable people understand they should listen with a reasonable hear.
    Would that you would have practiced that from 2001 to 2008.
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    Re: Obama: "ISIL Is Not Islamic"

    Quote Originally Posted by ObamacareFail View Post
    Well I have your reason pegged. You just cannot stand criticism of "Hussein" Obama.
    Except for, you know, the times I criticize him, which is fairly often.

    Again, stick to what you're good at. Telling others what they think ain't it.
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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    Re: Obama: "ISIL Is Not Islamic"

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    This inept bumbler is the President of the United States and still needs his followers to decipher what he was really trying to say. It becomes ever more pathetic for both as time passes.
    And they get a lot of practice trying to clean up after gaffomatic Joe Biden.

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    Re: Obama: "ISIL Is Not Islamic"

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Except for, you know, the times I criticize him, which is fairly often.

    Again, stick to what you're good at. Telling others what they think ain't it.
    That criticism is rare from my observations.

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