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    Re: Obama: "ISIL Is Not Islamic"

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    It seems you've been misinformed.
    U.S.–Iraq Status of Forces Agreement
    The U.S.–Iraq Status of Forces Agreement (official name: Agreement Between the United States of America and the Republic of Iraq On the Withdrawal of United States Forces from Iraq and the Organization of Their Activities during Their Temporary Presence in Iraq) was a status of forces agreement (SOFA) between Iraq and the United States, signed by President George W. Bush in 2008. It established that U.S. combat forces would withdraw from Iraqi cities by June 30, 2009, and all U.S. forces will be completely out of Iraq by December 31, 2011.
    This was an agreement that Obama respected and had out troops pulled out shortly before the deadline.

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    Re: Obama: "ISIL Is Not Islamic"

    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Mittner View Post
    U.S.–Iraq Status of Forces Agreement


    This was an agreement that Obama respected and had out troops pulled out shortly before the deadline.
    I'll not debate this with you because you have not done proper research. My earlier statement stands.

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    Re: Obama: "ISIL Is Not Islamic"

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    I'll not debate this with you because you have not done proper research. My earlier statement stands.
    RETREAT! RETREAT!
    He actually provides evidence!
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    Re: Obama: "ISIL Is Not Islamic"

    President Pinocchio is once again doing what he does best--lying. What he has insisted on denying all along is that what these and other jihadists are doing is inspired directly by the Koran and the hadiths. Whether he covers this up out of sheer incompetence, willful blindness, or a resentful and malicious desire to humble the very country he's sworn to defend, is a matter of opinion.

    Of course there are plenty of Muslims who do not think their faith calls on them to take a violent or supremacist stance toward the rest of humanity. They are decent people--but they are the ones with the radical interpretation of Islam. Survey after survey has shown that the lion's share of the population in many Muslim countries believes everyone should live under shariah. The main difference between them and these sons of whores who are burning and burying people alive, or beheading them--women and small children included--is in how to go about imposing it on the world.

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    Re: Obama: "ISIL Is Not Islamic"

    In my opinion, I regard ISIL as Islamic as much as I regard the KKK to be christian.

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    Re: Obama: "ISIL Is Not Islamic"

    Are ISIS members Islamists?

    Taking these perceived root causes in turn, three quarters of my sample came from the upper or middle class. The vast majority—90 percent—came from caring, intact families. Sixty-three percent had gone to college, as compared with the 5-6 percent that’s usual for the third world. These are the best and brightest of their societies in many ways.

    Al Qaeda’s members are not the Palestinian fourteen-year- olds we see on the news, but join the jihad at the average age of 26. Three-quarters were professionals or semi- professionals. They are engineers, architects, and civil engineers, mostly scientists. Very few humanities are represented, and quite surprisingly very few had any background in religion. The natural sciences predominate. Bin Laden himself is a civil engineer, Zawahiri is a physician, Mohammed Atta was, of course, an architect; and a few members are military, such as Mohammed Ibrahim Makawi, who is supposedly the head of the military committee.
    Terrorists are not particularly impoverished, uneducated, or afflicted by mental disease. Demographically, their most important characteristic is normalcy (within their environment). Terrorist leaders actually tend to come from relatively privileged backgrounds. These conclusions are firmly supported by empirical analysis[2]

    The study says that the ‘mean age’ at which a Muslim becomes radicalised is 21.6 years, while anyone between the ages of 16 and 32 is regarded as vulnerable.

    Most global jihadis are not illiterates raised in poor slums, but from well-off families and with advanced education degrees.

    “Sunni extremists accounted for the greatest number of terrorist attacks and fatalities for the third consecutive year,” the report says. “More than 5,700 incidents were attributed to Sunni extremists, accounting for nearly 56 percent of all attacks and about 70 percent of all fatalities.”

    More than 95 percent of all suicide bombing attacks conducted worldwide are carried out by Muslim extremists.


    Yet another 29.6 percent think the 9/11 attacks were partially or in some way justified. This takes the total world-wide percentage of Muslims who think the mass-slaughter of innocent non-Muslim (and some Muslim) civilians on 9/11 was either completely, partially or some way justified, up to 36.6 percent, or almost 4 out of every 10 Muslim.

    mazing as it sounds, according to Esposito and Mogahed, the proper term for a Muslim who hates America, wants to impose Sharia law, supports suicide bombing, and opposes equal rights for women but does not "completely" justify 9/11 is . . . "moderate."[15]
    Peter Neumann, a Professor of Security Studies at King’s College in London, said it was “not surprising” that the terrorist-in-waiting had sympathized with groups on the far-left.

    “Converts are often on the look-out for something to which they can dedicate themselves, and they like to experiment with radical environments. They seek out a strong ideology that gives them meaning and structure,” Neumann said.

    In the Muslim world, then, we celebrate what we call the martyr-bombers [i.e. suicide-bombers]. To us they are heroes defending the things we hold sacred. Polls in the Middle East show 75% of people in favour of martyr-bombings.[19]
    Do you believe that a non-violent Islam is an impractical, outdated theory? Sixty-five percent of the respondents said Yes, only 35% said No.
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    The Southern rebellion against the Northern domination lasted half a century -- from 1955 until 2005, with only an eleven year break between 1972 and 1983. In the brutal campaign to Arabize and Islamize the African Christian/traditionalist South, the leaders of the Arab Muslim North killed almost 3 million and ethnically cleansed 4 million more (nearly 80% of the population.)
    [103]
    Guess what all these perpetrators of violence including the murder of millions of people have in common?

    Mr. President and your liberal supporters - think Islam.

    http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Muslim_Statistics_-_Terrorism
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    Re: Obama: "ISIL Is Not Islamic"

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    True, honesty is rarely (wouldn't go so far as you have) part of American politics. However, all Muslims do NOT need to be compared to these extremists for lots of reasons, politics but one.
    They all have the same irrational beliefs. Some of them just go farther than others.
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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    Re: Obama: "ISIL Is Not Islamic"

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Staying out of the Middle East will not stop terrorism. That Barrack Obama feels he has to explain that there are good and bad Muslims shows his contempt for the American people. Or at least those who voted for him.
    Oh for Pete sake, Obama doesn't hate America, what propaganda.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Obama: "ISIL Is Not Islamic"

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Staying out of the Middle East will not stop terrorism. That Barrack Obama feels he has to explain that there are good and bad Muslims shows his contempt for the American people. Or at least those who voted for him.
    Going into the Middle East has promoted terrorism.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Obama: "ISIL Is Not Islamic"

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    In my opinion, I regard ISIL as Islamic as much as I regard the KKK to be christian.
    Problem is cap, that it really doesn't matter what you think they are.
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