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    Re: Obama: "ISIL Is Not Islamic"

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Obama knows that their behavior isn't consistent with Islam despite their claims. Really all that matters, you and the others making hay with this are ok, it's what partisans do.
    It's pretty consistent with all the other Muslim Caliphates, historically speaking, so I'm not sure what you...and he...are basing such an idea.
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    Re: Obama: "ISIL Is Not Islamic"

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Obama knows that their behavior isn't consistent with Islam despite their claims. Really all that matters, you and the others making hay with this are ok, it's what partisans do.
    Says who? Since there is no demonstrable "true" version of Islam, just like there isn't any demonstrable "true" version of Christianity, how do we know that their behavior isn't consistent with their particular interpretation of the Qur'an? After all, as I keep saying, there are more than 33,000 distinct sects of Christianity. Prove which one of them, if any, are consistent with Christianity.
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    Re: Obama: "ISIL Is Not Islamic"

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Of course it's Islamic, just like the KKK is Christian. It isn't politically correct to say so though, it might make someone cry.
    What a Despicable pieces of CRAP your posts on this topic are.

    The Caliphate IS Emulating Mohammed.
    The KKK is NOT Emulating Jesus.


    Yours, posts, like Paschendale's on this Topic, are Horrendous and IGNORANT apologism and PC gone to hell.
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    Note the below Bullcrap by Cephus did NOT/Could NOT answer my post.
    Mohammed was a Warrior and Cleanser, UNLIKE Jesus.
    'Caliphate' WAS THE objective of Islam, not a weird small 2000-yr-later renegade movement.
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    Re: Obama: "ISIL Is Not Islamic"

    Quote Originally Posted by mbig View Post
    What a Despicable pieces of CRAP your posts on this topic are.

    The Caliphate is Emulating Mohammed.
    The KKK is NOT emulating Jesus.


    Yours, posts, like Paschendale's on this Topic are Horrendous and IGNORANT apologism and PC gone to hell.
    ClueLess PC Filth.
    Maybe you need to actually do your research and stop acting like an ignorant git. The people who started the KKK (or any of the variant organizations that exist today) certainly use the Bible to justify their positions, they certainly claim to be Christians, etc. You're the one getting mad because you don't like to be painted with the same brush.

    Maybe you ought to stop believing that idiotic Christian nonsense.
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    Re: Obama: "ISIL Is Not Islamic"

    Quote Originally Posted by Μολὼν λαβέ View Post
    No, if they believe they're Islamic that means they are.
    Another ignorant comment to add to the pile.

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    Re: Obama: "ISIL Is Not Islamic"

    Quote Originally Posted by kramercat View Post
    "Now let’s make two things clear: ISIL is not Islamic. No religion condones the killing of innocents, and the vast majority of ISIL’s victims have been Muslim."

    Oh really? There has been an ongoing war, even before ISIS, with Sunni and Shia Muslims killing each other, and both killing Christians - so exactly who is innocent and who is guilty?

    Whether you like it or not, the name of the terrorist group is 'Islamic State'. They want a government governed strictly by Sharia, or Islamic, law. So yes, they are Islamic - the most fundamentalist form of Islam, but Islam. The Muslims are waiting for their 'Mahdi' - who is the anti-Christ. The Islamic religion itself is anti-Christian. It was created to directly oppose the notion that Jesus Christ died for the sins of mankind, and the Koran says explicitly that Jesus Christ is not the Son of God. So who is so adamantly opposed to Christ? I mean, there is no other religion that takes the religious text of another religion and twists it around to mean something else. The Virgin Mary appears in the Koran, as well as Jesus... only their roles have been changed. Those who think that they are following the same God of Abraham are mistaken - Allah is the ancient moon-god, and the crescent and star derive from him. So who is it that desperately wants mankind to NOT accept Jesus Christ as Savior - why the devil, of course.

    Obama: "ISIL Is Not Islamic" | Video | RealClearPolitics
    Of course ISIS isn't Islamic. The KKK wasn't Christian and the Buddhist sect that let sarin gas in Tokyo weren't Buddhist.

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    Re: Obama: "ISIL Is Not Islamic"

    It is amazing the number of groups that don't represent true Islam. I hope there is at least one that does.
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    Re: Obama: "ISIL Is Not Islamic"

    Quote Originally Posted by Texmex View Post
    Another ignorant comment to add to the pile.

    Note: Believing something doesn't mean it's true. Remember Santa Clause and the Easter Bunny, you do know they aren't real, don't you?
    No but it makes them a believer in one of those things. Religion is a belief. If someone believes they are a Christian, they are a Christian. If someone believes they are a Muslim, they are a Muslim. That's how it works.
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    Re: Obama: "ISIL Is Not Islamic"

    Quote Originally Posted by kramercat View Post
    "Now let’s make two things clear: ISIL is not Islamic. No religion condones the killing of innocents, and the vast majority of ISIL’s victims have been Muslim."

    Oh really? There has been an ongoing war, even before ISIS, with Sunni and Shia Muslims killing each other, and both killing Christians - so exactly who is innocent and who is guilty?

    Whether you like it or not, the name of the terrorist group is 'Islamic State'. They want a government governed strictly by Sharia, or Islamic, law. So yes, they are Islamic - the most fundamentalist form of Islam, but Islam. The Muslims are waiting for their 'Mahdi' - who is the anti-Christ. The Islamic religion itself is anti-Christian. It was created to directly oppose the notion that Jesus Christ died for the sins of mankind, and the Koran says explicitly that Jesus Christ is not the Son of God. So who is so adamantly opposed to Christ? I mean, there is no other religion that takes the religious text of another religion and twists it around to mean something else. The Virgin Mary appears in the Koran, as well as Jesus... only their roles have been changed. Those who think that they are following the same God of Abraham are mistaken - Allah is the ancient moon-god, and the crescent and star derive from him. So who is it that desperately wants mankind to NOT accept Jesus Christ as Savior - why the devil, of course.

    Obama: "ISIL Is Not Islamic" | Video | RealClearPolitics
    I nearly fell off my chair laughing when "Hussein" suggested ISIL is not Islamic.

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    Re: Obama: "ISIL Is Not Islamic"

    Quote Originally Posted by Tettsuo View Post
    If you claim to be Christian, but don't believe Jesus is God, are you really Christian?
    If you claim to be a follower of Judism, but you don't observe the sabbath, are you really a follower of Judism?
    If you claim to be Buddist, but you don't believe in karma or reincarnation, are you Buddist?

    I think that's what Obama was saying. If you claim to be a follower of Islam, but you kill innocent children, are you really a follower of Islam? Obama is saying that ISIL is not because they do not actually follow important Islamic teachings.
    Obama is not too bright.

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