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    Re: 13 Year Old Piano Prodigy Treated As Truant By Public School System

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    In my elementary school system, there was a grade for citizenship.
    They had something similar in my day. Not in middle school though. Nonetheless, the child's character is not in question.
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
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    Re: 13 Year Old Piano Prodigy Treated As Truant By Public School System

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    What academic purpose does playing the piano serve? Can I get my kid out of school because he is really good at playing the guitar?
    If he's one of 12 musicians selected from across the globe to play at a prestigious event in a foreign country, yes, yes that would be an excused absence.

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    Re: 13 Year Old Piano Prodigy Treated As Truant By Public School System

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    In my elementary school system, there was a grade for citizenship.
    We got certificates. But if you were good in all those areas, academics, behavior, citizenship, possibly some others, that was what led to a person being seen as a "star" student. Heck, the Navy actually sponsored the citizenship award for students at my son's elementary school in San Diego last year. They would always have a First Class Petty Officer show up and hand it out to one student per classroom.
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    Re: 13 Year Old Piano Prodigy Treated As Truant By Public School System

    Quote Originally Posted by Beaudreaux View Post
    That, right there, made me laugh so hard - to lecture someone else about emoticons with you having an avatar like that... I'm still laughing. Thanks for that BTW. I needed a good laugh today.
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    "Wealth of Nations," Book V, Chapter II, Part II, Article I, pg.911

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    Re: 13 Year Old Piano Prodigy Treated As Truant By Public School System

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Most of what you have said here is contradicted by the information we have and reality.

    Actually no. We are discussing what occurred initially, and then after the fact.


    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    First of all, yes, the school did excuse the absences, after the fact, meaning they felt that yes there were reasons to excuse such events. It also means that they will take into account circumstances, as long as the parents are willing to stand up for themselves and their children.
    Yes. They made excuses when there was no real valid reason. iLOL They are allowed to do that. And apparently they did.
    Doesn't mean it is right.
    And then you still have her being withdrawn from the school to home educate. Making what was reported seem not entirely accurate.


    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Second, yes, a valid academic purpose is served by playing a musical instrument. That is one reason that we have school bands. Playing instruments though have been proven to improve brain function.
    Irrelevant.
    Her playing does not equate to such.

    Nor is it academic or sponsored activity.
    Or are you forgetting she is a prodigy. She already has the ability. Those synapses are already there. She doesn't need to learn it.
    If you think so, she can play in the schools band then.


    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    This opportunity also provides her with advantages for her future. It can go on her resume should she wish to become a professional pianist.
    Irrelevant to the issue.
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    Re: 13 Year Old Piano Prodigy Treated As Truant By Public School System

    Quote Originally Posted by Kushinator View Post
    The decision was ultimately reversed and the absences excused. Your excessive use of emoticons in no way diminishes the weakness of your position.
    It is your position that is weak as shown.
    Eventual reversal means nothing.
    Especially as she withdrew from that school to be home educated.
    So why was the reason she withdrew again?
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    Re: 13 Year Old Piano Prodigy Treated As Truant By Public School System

    Quote Originally Posted by Kushinator View Post
    You are aware i never argued the school designated anything.

    That you continue to respond in a fallacious manner only displays desperateness in full force.
    And yet you continue to argue such when the school never called her one. Go figure. That was and continues to be the point of pointing it out to you.
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    Re: 13 Year Old Piano Prodigy Treated As Truant By Public School System

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Irrelevant to the issue.
    This is pure nonsense. Assuming the student completes all required course work, the experience of going to another country to play in front of thousands of people is superior to anything offered by attending school.
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
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    Re: 13 Year Old Piano Prodigy Treated As Truant By Public School System

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    It is your position that is weak as shown.
    Eventual reversal means nothing.
    Especially as she withdrew from that school to be home educated.
    So why was the reason she withdrew again?
    Likely because they weren't marking her as excused, threatening her with a truancy charge (which it could have been) before withdrawal. Possibly they said that she couldn't do such events again and have them excused, despite her being able to show that she could keep up with the work they were giving her, which means her academic progress in that school was not harmed at all by her going to such events.

    The school is wrong here. There was no reason not to excuse such absences from the beginning, and they knew this since they did in fact later excuse them.
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    Re: 13 Year Old Piano Prodigy Treated As Truant By Public School System

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    It is your position that is weak as shown.
    Eventual reversal means nothing.
    Especially as she withdrew from that school to be home educated.
    So why was the reason she withdrew again?
    She withdrew from school because her mother did not want all those unexcused absences and an appointed truant officer on her school records. She didn't want her child's brilliant academic record to be dimmed by a bunch of bureaucrats.

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