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More than 100 teens swarm Memphis plaza, 'knocking out' shoppers

a351 said:
Do us all a favor and point out some folks who are condoning this behavior.
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The people that do nothing about it. The people that watch it actually happen and do nothing about it. The people that live in areas where these things happen but for whatever reason (fear, culture of not snitching, etc.) do nothing. The leaders of this country that for obviously politically correct reasons do nothing, or if they do at least say something (even though just talking isn't enough), blame others for the actions of young miscreants like these.

Is that enough people for you? Or would like more examples, including some names?
 
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Geoist said:
This is not considered acceptable behavior in any American town I know of...
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I never said it was acceptable in a town, city, county, state or country. I said culture. What passes for acceptable culture. Obviously, in the town the video was taken, there's at least some part of our culture where it is in fact acceptable, or around a hundred kids wouldn't have been doing it.
 
Beaudreaux said:
Given that it's happening more and more often, that would be the people actually doing things like this. You don't see a correlation between an increase in frequency and an increase in acceptance? One is the result of the other. If it was not increasingly acceptable within young cultures, then it would not be increasing in frequency.
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Since assaults have been going down in frequency, then your argument shows that there's less acceptance, not more, by our culture.
 
I find it amusing and really sad how all of these angry white guy's always play the race card themselves and blame Holder and Obama, for the actions of some stupid punks at a Krogers in Tennesse:cuckoo:

I suppose when angry young whites were rioting in redneck cesspool Mississippi, the night Obama won the election by beating that Mormon turd, that was all Obama's fault too???, LOL, the nerve of a Black man to beat a rich white guy to win an election, huh??

There's been plenty of crimes committed by young whites against Blacks, in this country the last 10 year's did the Blacks go blaming Bill Clinton for that?????
 
Beaudreaux said:
I never said it was acceptable in a town, city, county, state or country. I said culture. What passes for acceptable culture. Obviously, in the town the video was taken, there's at least some part of our culture where it is in fact acceptable, or around a hundred kids wouldn't have been doing it.
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I'm just trying to find out who said this was "acceptable culture."
 
sangha said:
Since assaults have been going down in frequency, then your argument shows that there's less acceptance, not more, by our culture.
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:bs And you know it. I'm not talking about our overall culture, and you know that, too. This is about a unique culture that feels that actions like this are acceptable, and are in fact increasing in reported frequency, and that, you know as well.

So again, :bs.
 
Geoist said:
I'm just trying to find out who said this was "acceptable culture."
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The kids doing it, and the people that allow it to happen without reprisal or engaging the culture head-on to change it by making it as important an issue to thwart as the other cultural anomalies they tend to rail against.
 
Beaudreaux said:
The kids doing it, and the people that allow it to happen without reprisal or engaging the culture head-on to change it by making it as important an issue to thwart as the other cultural anomalies they tend to rail against.
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Obviously the kids doing it are okay with it (as long as its not their head getting kicked). But if you are referring to the black community/culture in general, I guarantee the vast majority of them are vehemently opposed to this.
 
Beaudreaux said:
:bs And you know it. I'm not talking about our overall culture, and you know that, too. This is about a unique culture that feels that actions like this are acceptable, and are in fact increasing in reported frequency, and that, you know as well.

So again, :bs.
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I really don't know what you're talking about but I do know what you said

Beaudreaux said:
What passes as acceptable culture of this country is going to hell.
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Notice how you talk about the "acceptable culture of this country"

Now, if you want to admit that your own words were poorly chosen and rephrase them to be more clear, be my guest. Just please don't think that you've been clear so any misunderstanding is the fault of others.
Beaudreaux said:
The kids doing it, and the people that allow it to happen without reprisal or engaging the culture head-on to change it by making it as important an issue to thwart as the other cultural anomalies they tend to rail against.
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That's absurd. Who exactly is "allowing" this to happen and how are you not "allowing" it to happen? And, aside from posting on an internet website, exactly how are you "engaging the culture head-on" to change it?
 
Erod said:
This isn't a single deranged person. This is a coordinated attack by children on innocent people.

These are the equivalent of animals.
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Why do you besmirch Animals in such a way?

Name for me an animal which exhibits the behaviors of Racism and Sadism?

Ants? No. Intra-species warfare, yes, but not Racism and certainly not Sadism.

Rats? No... Greed and Cannibalism, certainly, but not Racism and Sadism.

Bears? No

Baboons? No... but maybe close

Lions? No, not at all.

Horses? Silly

Sharks? No

Rabbits? Laughable

Hyenas? Maybe, getting closer, from what I've seen in films on their behavior,...


But the sad fact is, you won't find intelligent, tool using, organized, social Animals of ANY species other than humans exhibiting the Behavior of Massed, Socially Organized, Deliberate expenditure of Time and Energy on Racism and Sadism, other than Humans.

Additionally, you will not find it in MOST human Cultures.

The Liberals on this forum will scream Oppression, for even suggesting it, but we all can name those cultures off-hand with no study or reference required.

Don't Admit it on the Forum, Admit it to yourself.

Then ask WHY?

What is the difference?

What makes one culture embrace Racism and Sadism, and another reject it?

American WHITE Culture in the Deep South, with the KKK, at one time exhibited Racism and Sadism, and later found the strength of character to reject and remove it. Its not common to quite the behavior for any culture which embraces it.

Why is it hard to stop? Why did White America do so?

The process of rejecting that cultural aspect doesn't come easy, and for some cultures, it has not happened for centuries.

What will it take to get the American Subculture currently gleefully embracing Racism and Sadism, to stop?

As a student in Sociology, I think I know what it will take... can you guess what I'll say?

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Some of you, imo, are over analysing this.

I assume this is little more then a bunch of poor/angry young people lashing out in an extreme way.

I remember when I was 15, a friend of mine and I came out of a football game late at night and about 16-20 'white' boys/guys (I would guess between 13-17) that I had never seen before (and they were not wearing colors that I could see so I doubt they were an organized gang) just beat the **** out of us with fists/kicks/baseball bats (gave me a concussion). They didn't even take our wallets before we got away...they just were obviously furious at life and wanted to hurt someone else (wish they would have picked a different night to take revenge on the world...oh well).

Angry youths have been doing things like this for as hundreds and hundreds of years I bet. It's just that only recently have most people got video cameras in their phones to film it.

It's not cultural or race-related, imo, NEARLY as much as it's about poverty and/or crappy parents.

You don't see too many bands of financially stable, well loved/raised teenagers running around beating people up.
 
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Beaudreaux said:
The people that do nothing about it. The people that watch it actually happen and do nothing about it. The people that live in areas where these things happen but for whatever reason (fear, culture of not snitching, etc.) do nothing.
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Quick question. What are you doing about it?

The leaders of this country that for obviously politically correct reasons do nothing, or if they do at least say something (even though just talking isn't enough), blame others for the actions of young miscreants like these.
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What actions should the leaders of this country take in response to the trashing of a grocery store in Memphis? What should be on, say.. Mitch McConnell's to-do list in light of recent events?

Is that enough people for you? Or would like more examples, including some names?
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It'd be a nice start.
 
Geoist said:
Obviously the kids doing it are okay with it (as long as its not their head getting kicked). But if you are referring to the black community/culture in general, I guarantee the vast majority of them are vehemently opposed to this.
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I disagree.

If you are referring to the unhomogenious group of ALL Black Americans, you are correct, "the vast majority of them are vehemently opposed to this."

If you try to apply the same standard to the local subgroup of Urban, disgruntled, entitlement mentality, Government Welfare Dependent Black Americans, the approval of this kind of behavior is Blatantly evident in the laughter and comments of the person making the cell phone video!

Among the Urban-Affirmative-Action-Welfare-Redistribution-Blacks, the uncontested voting Vassals of the Democratic Party, this type of behavior and attitude is common place in 2014.

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Fishstyx said:
That kid in the green shirt kicking the Kroger's kid in the head should be charged with attempted murder. Blows like that to the head could certainly kill you.
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I think it would be assault with a deadly weapon.
 
There does seem to be some differences in law enforcements reactions toward different colored people.

 
jmotivator said:
I think it would be assault with a deadly weapon.
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Is it a Hate-Crime?

Would Eric Holder's DOJ ever prosecute as such, even under the most blatant of circumstances?

Conrad Alvin Barrett, Texas man, charged with hate crime after punching elderly black man in "knockout" attack - CBS News

The above is a link to a story about a White person participating in the Knock-Out-Game. To my knowledge, it is the ONLY case of a White American doing so.

The Federal Justice System prosecuted the case as a Hate-Crime.

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Mr. Shabazz had all charges for voter intimidation dropped by Eric Holder.

He has advocated the killing of White Children on many occasions.



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sangha said:
They're definitely southern.

Southern culture is certainly more violent. If you doubt it, just look at the video. Look closely
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Missouri is in the South ?
 
Fenton said:
Missouri is in the South ?
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Philly, PA, ... where they want to "Kill Cracker Babies!"... is in the South?

Or Brooklyn, NY? It NY in the South?

Brooklyn group of black youths blocks white couple's car, bloody victims in racial attack: cops - NY Daily News



Or Indian Head Park, Illinois? Is Illinois in the South?

Prosecutors: DNA evidence links John Wilson, Jr., to Kelli O'Laughlin murder | abc7chicago.com


Or Youngstown, Ohio? Is Ohio considered to be in the South?

Capital murder case trial set to begin Monday in Warren | WYTV.com



How about Chicago? Would beating a man to death in Chicago be considered as "in the South"?

Man gets 25 years in beating death of father of 3 - Chicago Tribune




I can sure see what he means about "The South" being much more violent!

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a351 said:
Who's shrugging it off? More specifically, who should be making public statements about the incident outside of local law enforcement?
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The parents? Its on them too.
 
tres borrachos said:
They are NOT the equivalent of animals. Animals are incapable of such disgusting behavior.
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Yeah, my thoughts, Post #135, page 14

I cannot think of any Animal with practices social grouped Racism and Sadism.

Cats sometime appear to be Sadistic, but in closer inspection, with a laser pointer, it is actually just predator Practice/Play.

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Kurmugeon said:
Yeah, my thoughts, Post #135, page 11
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I'm catching up with the posts as I read along. :mrgreen: A few others also said it. My bad. Redundant.

I'd like to know who that bitch who was cackling while taping this is.
 
tres borrachos said:
I'm catching up with the posts as I read along. :mrgreen: A few others also said it. My bad. Redundant.

I'd like to know who that bitch who was cackling while taping this is.
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Please, Don't take my comments wrong.

I personally find nothing at all bad about independent redundant posts, it confirms that first time through reads of the thread come to similar conclusions.

This in itself is a type of Debate Verdict Process.

P.S. As a student of both Natural History, the Environment and Ecosystems, and Human Sociology, I find I really would like to find an example of an animal which practices clear Sadistic behavior.

Examining how that animal Sadistic behavior aids in survival, would tell us much about human sadistic behavior.

But so far as I know, the pattern is unique to humans.
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