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    Re: More than 100 teens swarm Memphis plaza, 'knocking out' shoppers

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Oh come on people....A bunch of young black punks get together and think it would be a hoot to attack, and injure innocent people that did nothing to them, and all of the sudden we need 32 pages of studies to determine that this is pure deplorable behavior? This is what is wrong today.
    No, we don't. There hasn't been any support for the attackers

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    I can't think of anyone who's actually suggested that we hold different races to different standards. Just another platitude.

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    Re: More than 100 teens swarm Memphis plaza, 'knocking out' shoppers

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    Seems that there have been 11 arrests related to this incident. Two of those arrests were initiated by parents who turned their own kids in.

    10 teens, 1 adult charged in brutal Kroger parking lot attack - Action News 5 - Memphis, Tennessee
    Good on the parents.

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    Re: More than 100 teens swarm Memphis plaza, 'knocking out' shoppers

    Quote Originally Posted by vasuderatorrent View Post
    In white trailer trash culture people commit crimes because they are lazy and completely good for nothing. The white trailer trash knows they are good for nothing and can only survive by committing crimes.

    In black ghetto culture defiance of the law is honorable and something to be respected as an admirable life choice.

    WAY DIFFERENT!!!

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    Nope. White trailer trash doesn't do stuff like this. EVER!!!!! Give me an example.

    I know that you feel better about yourself when you lie but try to tell the truth sometimes. Telling the truth sucks really bad.

    Black criminals are way more organized than white criminals.
    I guess you've missed the last century of American history, because it is rife with highly visible murderers and extortionists who were both white and acting as a part of organized crime. It is also rife with everyday whites acting as mobs to keep troublesome niggers in line, both within the law of the day and extra-judicially. Should I keep going? Biker gangs, drug manufacturing and distribution, arms dealers, and the beat goes on...

    It really is a shame that the best you can do when confronted by one of the smartest people on this forum is to resort to the base, purile tactics of provocation, gross mischaracterization and outright lying. This kind of behavior is THE cancer that has been eating at Debate Politics for some time now.

    You are not nearly as smart and cutting edge as you seem to think you are. You are not even PART of the problem. You ARE the problem.
    I'm already gearing up for Finger Vote 2014.

    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: More than 100 teens swarm Memphis plaza, 'knocking out' shoppers

    Quote Originally Posted by a351 View Post
    No, we don't. There hasn't been any support for the attackers
    Good, glad to hear it....
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    Re: More than 100 teens swarm Memphis plaza, 'knocking out' shoppers

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    Interesting thought process....

    I have an accounting practice. It's a small office which gives me a good bit of flexibility with employees. If I hire someone for $12/hr to answer phones and make sure mail gets out that doesn't mean that they can't learn how to handle other tasks. I have taught some of them how to do basic bookkeeping and with that single skill they can take on a role that pays a percentage of the monthly billing for any client they work on. The more they can do the more money they can make. I also don't dissuade them from bringing in more business. If they bring in an account they'll make an even bigger percentage. Hell, I don't even require them to have a college degree....or even a GED. If they can do the work they can make the money.

    Would you like to guess how many of these poor, "undervalued" 20-30 year olds have taken me up on those options? Would you like to guess how many stuck with it for more than a year even if they did take me up on the offer?
    The problem might be you

    I've hired dozens of 20-30 year olds and only occassionally had those problems. Sure, every now and then you get someone who doesn't cut it, but the overwhelming majority were good workers.

    However, most of the young people I've hired were immigrants, so maybe it's an american thing
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    Re: More than 100 teens swarm Memphis plaza, 'knocking out' shoppers

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Please provide an example of "whit trailer trash" acting in a similar way. I've never heard of a bunch of white kids randomly jumping innocent people at a grocery store.
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    Re: More than 100 teens swarm Memphis plaza, 'knocking out' shoppers


    The Matthew Sheppard case was never a hate crime...

    But, on the November 26, 2004, 20/20, ABC host Elizabeth Vargas ran a report in which a number of figures tied to the case, including the prosecutor, were interviewed, and made a credible case that Shepard was targeted by Aaron McKinney and Russell Henderson not because of anti-gay sentiment, but because McKinney was high on methamphetamines, giving him unusual violent tendencies as well as a desire for cash to buy more drugs. Vargas not only found that a meth high can lead to the kind of extreme violence perpetrated against Shepard, but that McKinney had gone on to similarly attack another man, causing a skull fracture, very soon after his attack on Shepard. Additionally, McKinney’s girlfriend and another friend of McKinney’s even claimed that McKinney himself has bisexual tendencies, although McKinney himself denied it.

    Vargas appeared on the November 19, 2004, The O’Reilly Factor on FNC and summarized her findings:

    The prosecutor who prosecuted these crimes says that he never believed it was a hate crime. He believes it was a drug crime. Aaron McKinney, according to Aaron McKinney himself and to several other witnesses, was coming down from a five-day methamphetamine binge. He freely admits he not only used methamphetamine but dealt them, sold them. Five days up with no sleep, strung out on drugs, desperate to buy more, desperate to rob somebody to get money to buy more drugs. This was the motive, according to Aaron McKinney and the other witnesses.

    Below is a transcript of relevant portions of the Friday, November 19, 2004 The O’Reilly Factor on FNC, followed by the Wednesday, April 29, Countdown show on MSNBC and the same days’s Hardball on MSNBC:

    #From the November 19, 2004, The O’Reilly Factor:

    ELIZABETH VARGAS: We talked to a lot of witnesses in the case, looked at statements that had been previously sealed by the court following the convictions. And what we found out was that sort of the original version of events that everybody believed may not be true. The version of events was Matthew Shepard didn't know, had never met these two men, that they targeted him, attacked him, and beat him so severely because he was gay. We have talked to several witnesses who say actually the men may have in fact known each other.

    ...

    BILL O'REILLY: I just want to fill people's memories in because it was -- apparently, they were at a bar, these two guys felt he was coming on to them in some way, they lured him outside and they killed him. That was basically the nut. You're saying there was more to the murder?

    VARGAS: Even the prosecutor says there was more to the murder. The prosecutor who prosecuted these crimes says that he never believed it was a hate crime. He believes it was a drug crime. Aaron McKinney, according to Aaron McKinney himself and to several other witnesses, was coming down from a five-day methamphetamine binge. He freely admits he not only used methamphetamine but dealt them, sold them. Five days up with no sleep, strung out on drugs, desperate to buy more, desperate to rob somebody to get money to buy more drugs. This was the motive, according to Aaron McKinney and the other witnesses.

    ...

    VARGAS: When we talked to an expert about this, it was something called methamphetamine rage. I mean, it's something that experts say is common for somebody coming – he beat another boy that night, another young man, only this young man. ... right after he left Matthew Shepard tied to the fence, he and his friend drove down into town, and, 20 minutes later, he was attacking somebody else in the exact same fashion. This young man happened to be armed with a baseball bat and had a friend there to help him out. Matthew Shepard was unarmed and by himself and was much more a victim of his-

    ...

    O'REILLY: So you may get backlash now from the gay groups who say, well, why even bother with this thing? What are you going to, what's the answer to that?

    VARGAS: The answer to that is we're trying, we have an obligation to uncover the truth of what really happened. 20/20 was one of the first newsmagazine's to go out with this story that this was a bias crime, this was a hate crime way back in 1998 when this happened. ... The girlfriend of Aaron McKinney went on our program in silhouette ... She lied. She comes to us now, not in silhouette, in full face to admit that she lied. This was something they cooked up hoping to get him a lesser sentence to explain why he might have freaked out and done what he did.

    O'REILLY: So they were going homophobia, whatever? They tried to do it.

    VARGAS: They claimed that this was something from the beginning they cooked up as a way to get a lesser sentence. But I must say it's important to know we knew this would be controversial. We know there will be some people who are not happy about this version of events.

    ...

    O'REILLY: And you're a hundred percent sure that this is correct? Now you're not going to come back a year from now and say, well, we're going back to the gay thing?

    VARGAS: I'm a hundred percent sure our hour is accurate. We talked to a lot of people, have a very, very-

    O'REILLY: If you have a girl recanting, that's big.

    VARGAS: We do. And the prosecutor himself saying he never believed it was a hate crime.

    - See more at: ABC Debunked Matthew Shepard Murder as No Hate Crime, MSNBC Savages Republican for Repeating
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    Re: More than 100 teens swarm Memphis plaza, 'knocking out' shoppers

    All the more reason not to ban hi cap magazines.


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    This isn't a single deranged person. This is a coordinated attack by children on innocent people.

    These are the equivalent of animals.

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    Re: More than 100 teens swarm Memphis plaza, 'knocking out' shoppers

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    Seems that there have been 11 arrests related to this incident. Two of those arrests were initiated by parents who turned their own kids in.

    10 teens, 1 adult charged in brutal Kroger parking lot attack - Action News 5 - Memphis, Tennessee
    And did you also notice that there is also outrage from the black community?

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    Re: More than 100 teens swarm Memphis plaza, 'knocking out' shoppers

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    Ignoring reality is a bad way to go through life son.......just sayin'
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