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    Re: More than 100 teens swarm Memphis plaza, 'knocking out' shoppers

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    Agreed. I am not excusing anything, I am saying it is wrong to to think that we don't have socio-economic classes in the USA.
    Is there a place on earth that doesn't?
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    Re: More than 100 teens swarm Memphis plaza, 'knocking out' shoppers

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    It is seeing reality.
    "Reality" is what a person makes of their circumstances. It doesn't take one cent out of a person's pocket to be polite and respectful of others.

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    Re: More than 100 teens swarm Memphis plaza, 'knocking out' shoppers

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    Agreed. I am not excusing anything, I am saying it is wrong to to think that we don't have socio-economic classes in the USA.
    What does ones economic class have to do with rioting and assaulting people?

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    Re: More than 100 teens swarm Memphis plaza, 'knocking out' shoppers

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    Anybody notice the large pink elephant in the room?
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    Re: More than 100 teens swarm Memphis plaza, 'knocking out' shoppers

    Quote Originally Posted by Beaudreaux View Post
    Anyone... ANYONE... that has the mental capacity and physical capacity (not disabled by mental illness or physical deformity - although a lot of them find success as well) that wants to rise up out of poverty can do just that. There are examples every day from every race and every socioeconomic group (notice I said group, not class). So your premise, is just class warfare at its base. Blame someone else for the personal problems of others, hating the rich or for that matter an entire race because they have some perceived advantage is not the answer to anyone's problems, and DAMN sure not an excuse to act like these kids did.
    I'm not making excuses for anyone. I am responding to your claim that we don't have social classes in the USA. The fact is that the overwhelming majority of people born poor will only rise up a couple of steps on the economic ladder and those born upper class and wealthy will remain upper class and wealthy. A few exceptions don't change that reality. Your parent's income is the best predictor of your future economic success. Fact. It is not class warfare to recognize that we have classes.
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    Re: More than 100 teens swarm Memphis plaza, 'knocking out' shoppers

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Is there a place on earth that doesn't?
    Not that I know about. That doesn't change the fact that it is a reality in the USA.

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    Re: More than 100 teens swarm Memphis plaza, 'knocking out' shoppers

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    What does ones economic class have to do with rioting and assaulting people?
    I was responding to the statement from Beaudreaux., so ask him.

    However, rioting is mostly done by people at the bottom of the socio-economic ladder. AFAIK there was no political intent in this incident, so that is not an excuse for their acts, just a fact.

    Denying the existence of socio-econmic classes might help support a political agenda, but it does not help solve problems. Ignoring reality only makes it more difficult to solve problems.

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    Re: More than 100 teens swarm Memphis plaza, 'knocking out' shoppers

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    I was responding to the statement from Beaudreaux., so ask him.

    However, rioting is mostly done by people at the bottom of the socio-economic ladder. AFAIK there was no political intent in this incident, so that is not an excuse for their acts, just a fact.

    Denying the existence of socio-econmic classes might help support a political agenda, but it does not help solve problems. Ignoring reality only makes it more difficult to solve problems.
    How about this for "reality"......the fact that these punks show little to no respect for the property or person of others is the CAUSE of their stagnation in a low economic class?

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    Re: More than 100 teens swarm Memphis plaza, 'knocking out' shoppers

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    It's (insert alphabet news network here) ... ratings equal viewers, viewers equal $.

    Why else would FNC be interviewing Ward Churchill right now? He's irrelevant. But, he makes people mad, and mad equals viewers.


    You nailed that.


    We also had a rule in Television news, "if it bleeds, burns, or blows up, it leads." In that day, and I see no real change, there was always a huge emphasis on crime, if there were good pictures...a spot of blood residue on the sidewalk dramatically shot is always a good closing visual leaving the viewer sad about the "needless crime." A drive by where you can show bullet holes will lead way ahead of police solving a 15 week old robbery.

    The facts are that the crime rate in Canada and the United states is going down and has been since they banned leaded gas. The fact is the amount of coverage paid to crime stories has increased disproportionately
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    Re: More than 100 teens swarm Memphis plaza, 'knocking out' shoppers

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    How about this for "reality"......the fact that these punks show little to no respect for the property or person of others is the CAUSE of their stagnation in a low economic class?


    That said it. So often the proponents of the "social/slavery" issues only ever tell one arc of the socio-criminal cycle. Part of that issue is the fact people who are given money in exchange for votes never get enough, and thus have no respect for property, rights or anything not them.

    The crime is not need based, but usually class or racial warfare
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