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    Re: White House: Obama to Delay Immigration Action

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Thats absolutely it-in fact Chuck Todd just grilled the President on how clearly he is playing politics with this entire fiasco. Look at the Presidents body language. Those bug eyes-he's going to get those more and more his last 2 years.

    Exclusive: Obama Blames Border Crisis for Immigration Reform Delay - NBC News
    I wont put it past him to make some sort of amnesty Executive Order. He will no doubt fully expect that it will be legally challenged and then he will go around talking about the eeeeeeevil republicans and how they hate minorities.

    Enough of the posturing. In a very real sense, he IS correct when he says Congress isnt acting. So...time for Congress to act. Democrats should make this a major campaign issue and they should press legislation guaranteeing blanket amnesty and benefits. Watch how quickly their constituents slap the taste out of their mouths.



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    Re: White House: Obama to Delay Immigration Action

    Senator Sessions, Alabama forced a vote before the Summer recess on support of Obama's amnesty by way of executive order. All Democratic senators are now on record in favor of it except one, Senator Joe Manchin (D-WV). This vote is being used to hammer about 6 Democrat senators up for re-election. The majority of the people are not in favor of Obama's type of amnesty or any other. They see it as a real threat to the working class. Democrats aren't the only ones pushing for it as the RNC establishment want an amnesty bill also. These establishment Republicans are in the pockets of the Chamber of Commerce who have poured millions into lobbying for amnesty. It really seems ass backwards to pass an amnesty bill when we are still waiting on the border fence to be built for the past 6 years that Congress allocated the money for in 2007 just prior to Obama's election. It sure would have helped with the crisis we have seen occurring on the Southern border with hundreds of thousands crossing into this country the last couple of years. Pity, now We the People not only are on the hook for the fence that was never built but now we are on the hook to feed, clothe, shelter, school, provide medical treatment for all these uninvited guests. It also seems ass backwards to pass an amnesty bill with a broken student/workers visa program where our government seems to be incapable of keeping track of those whose visas have expired. This year alone, our beloved government has lost track of 600,000 people on student visas alone which results in adding significantly to the number of illegals in this country. It also seems ass backwards to promote amnesty of any kind under the leadership of Democrats whose very policies promote illegal immigration. Makes no sense at all. And for a president to be so brazen as to push for it by EO is over the top.

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    Re: White House: Obama to Delay Immigration Action

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    You've invoked the fallacy of having an argument. That everyone else can see this is merely my perspective on reality. Nonetheless, please... would anyone like to support Haymarket's "do unto them as they have done unto us" position?

    I'm waiting for Haymarket's support.
    What fallacy have I invoked? You cannot even name one nor connect it to me.

    And now you play to the peanut gallery hoping for support in another blatant appeal to use Argumentum ad Populum.

    And all this because you identify me as an enemy. Amazing!!!!
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    Re: White House: Obama to Delay Immigration Action

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Six years in, and after caving AGAIN, this time with immigration-you think Obama is going to grow a pair?
    Good point..... we shall see.
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    Re: White House: Obama to Delay Immigration Action

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    So how do you feel about your fellow republican congress critters passing the buck? This is congress's job and they continue to pass the buck.
    Don't the democrats own the Senate? Didn't they own both the house and the senate AND the WH for two years at the beginning of this administration?
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    Re: White House: Obama to Delay Immigration Action

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    I'll remember it for you. Did you see Boehner's crybaby remarks today--the hypocrite Maximus whining about no Obama actions after Boehner has refused to act on immigration reform for well over a year since GOP Sen. Rubio
    handed him his bipartisan plan. Bet Thom is more concerned !
    What's your point here NIMBY? That neither side is ready to compromise or are you just saying it's the Republican's fault again? Because that's where we really stand - it's both parties that are the problem. This is not an all or nothing proposition. There are laws already on the books that could fix 99% of the problems. A real fix would be pretty simple, but things like amnesty and political party membership gain are killing any possibility of compromise.
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    Re: White House: Obama to Delay Immigration Action

    The GOP made illegal immigration a uber issue with the latest influx of immigrants. The GOP got a reprieve from action on immigration when they went on summer vacation.

    The ball is in the GOP's court. They were clamoring for action...now its time. Vacation is over.

    It's a smart move for the President, wait and see if the pressure from the base pushes the House to act.

    The constitution says the house initiates legislation.


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    Re: White House: Obama to Delay Immigration Action

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    Senator Sessions, Alabama forced a vote before the Summer recess on support of Obama's amnesty by way of executive order. All Democratic senators are now on record in favor of it except one, Senator Joe Manchin (D-WV). This vote is being used to hammer about 6 Democrat senators up for re-election. The majority of the people are not in favor of Obama's type of amnesty or any other. They see it as a real threat to the working class. Democrats aren't the only ones pushing for it as the RNC establishment want an amnesty bill also. These establishment Republicans are in the pockets of the Chamber of Commerce who have poured millions into lobbying for amnesty. It really seems ass backwards to pass an amnesty bill when we are still waiting on the border fence to be built for the past 6 years that Congress allocated the money for in 2007 just prior to Obama's election. It sure would have helped with the crisis we have seen occurring on the Southern border with hundreds of thousands crossing into this country the last couple of years. Pity, now We the People not only are on the hook for the fence that was never built but now we are on the hook to feed, clothe, shelter, school, provide medical treatment for all these uninvited guests. It also seems ass backwards to pass an amnesty bill with a broken student/workers visa program where our government seems to be incapable of keeping track of those whose visas have expired. This year alone, our beloved government has lost track of 600,000 people on student visas alone which results in adding significantly to the number of illegals in this country. It also seems ass backwards to promote amnesty of any kind under the leadership of Democrats whose very policies promote illegal immigration. Makes no sense at all. And for a president to be so brazen as to push for it by EO is over the top.
    Im the son of an immigrant and am tired of people pretending they dont understand the difference between immigration (a great thing), and illegal immigration.

    Last week at the California gubernatorial debate my states governor stated that 1/3rd of our public school children are illegal or can't speak english. One third-think of the resources that now have to be allocated to them to the detriment of kids who are citizens. Our states education scores speak as loudly-and thats only in one aspect of the negatives of illegal immigration. Something like that percentage also occupy our prisons.

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    Re: White House: Obama to Delay Immigration Action

    Quote Originally Posted by 1750Texan View Post
    The GOP made illegal immigration a uber issue with the latest influx of immigrants. The GOP got a reprieve from action on immigration when they went on summer vacation.

    The ball is in the GOP's court. They were clamoring for action...now its time. Vacation is over.

    It's a smart move for the President, wait and see if the pressure from the base pushes the House to act.

    The constitution says the house initiates legislation.
    Nothing here is smart for the President. He wants to threaten amnesty or an executive order, he gets to deal with the consequences.

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    Re: White House: Obama to Delay Immigration Action

    It saddens me that voters may not see through this cowardice farce. It will be interesting for sure.
    What an appalling move.

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