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    Re: White House: Obama to Delay Immigration Action

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    you just keep dodgin' Haymarket, no one's even bothering to swing at you anymore.
    your inability to back up your own claims is your own problem - not mine.
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    Re: White House: Obama to Delay Immigration Action

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    Wait, first you say that the two years of predicted bitterness is an absolute ..is rather concrete...

    Then you say it all depends on something Obama has so far been unable to to, as in grow a pair....

    Are you conceding a Republican victory in 2016?
    Like I said - it all depends on two factors: the first being a GOP win in the Senate this year, the second being Obama standing up to the right wing extremism of the next two years.

    I think I made that very very very clear right from the start.
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    Re: White House: Obama to Delay Immigration Action

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Like I said - it all depends on two factors: the first being a GOP win in the Senate this year, the second being Obama standing up to the right wing extremism of the next two years.

    I think I made that very very very clear right from the start.


    No, what you have done is pretzel logic...but carry on, I am certain we are done here.
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    Re: White House: Obama to Delay Immigration Action

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Like I said - it all depends on two factors: the first being a GOP win in the Senate this year, the second being Obama standing up to the right wing extremism of the next two years.

    I think I made that very very very clear right from the start.
    Or perhaps Obama will finally decide he has to compromise with congress lest he be deemed a lousy president.

    My sense is that he may find a way to breakthrough much of the gridlock when both sides really have skin in the game.

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    Re: White House: Obama to Delay Immigration Action

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    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill
    you just keep dodgin' Haymarket, no one's even bothering to swing at you anymore.
    your inability to back up your own claims is your own problem - not mine.

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    Re: White House: Obama to Delay Immigration Action

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    No, what you have done is pretzel logic...but carry on, I am certain we are done here.
    I have no idea what that means and you failed to explain it.
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    Re: White House: Obama to Delay Immigration Action

    Quote Originally Posted by washunut View Post
    Or perhaps Obama will finally decide he has to compromise with congress lest he be deemed a lousy president.

    My sense is that he may find a way to breakthrough much of the gridlock when both sides really have skin in the game.
    Sadly, that is all he has done. Look at the health care bill which began as a Republican idea and was compromised over and over again.

    Lets hope GOP rule in both houses causes him to change and become the champion we were looking for.
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    Re: White House: Obama to Delay Immigration Action

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Sadly, that is all he has done. Look at the health care bill which began as a Republican idea and was compromised over and over again.
    Well, I know that it has been shown to you repeatedly how the ACA differs from the supposed "Heritage plan" by conservatives, only to be ignored by you, as evidenced by this statement here. You won't believe conservatives, how's about you read from a real activist liberal in the American Prospect....Maybe then you'll listen and stop repeating this Michael Moore lie....

    The filmmaker Michael Moore has, through his fine documentary Sicko and other public arguments, done a great deal to bring attention to the deficiencies of the American health-care system. His New York Times op-ed on the occasion of the first day of the Affordable Care Act's exchanges repeats some of these important points. However, his essay also repeats a pernicious lie: the idea that the Affordable Care Act is essentially a Republican plan based on a Heritage Foundation blueprint. This argument is very wrong. It is both unfair to the ACA and far too fair to American conservatives.

    No, Obamacare Wasn't a "Republican" Proposal
    Lets hope GOP rule in both houses causes him to change and become the champion we were looking for.
    You'll never admit it honestly, but this reads like you want the President to act like a dictator, or at the least monarch....IS that what you mean?
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    Re: White House: Obama to Delay Immigration Action

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Sadly, that is all he has done. Look at the health care bill which began as a Republican idea and was compromised over and over again.

    Lets hope GOP rule in both houses causes him to change and become the champion we were looking for.
    Lets be candid. Yes he did compromise, but with democrats not republicans. The country needs a President who will work to fix things like the tax code, immigration etc.

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    Re: White House: Obama to Delay Immigration Action

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    John F Kennedy as a tea partier. gee whiz but once that is the centerpiece of your argument - you pretty much leave me speechless.
    I cannot help the fact that you lack a coherent response. The truth is that you don't have the foggiest clue what the tea party groups stand for...and you don't know enough about the history of your own party to work out that some of the democrat party's past leaders would be tea partiers by todays standards. JFK is just one of them.

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