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    Re: Cuban intelligence agencies recruit leftist professors

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    He's not going to get what you tried to do. It was far too complex.
    The best part is that he called out the book for admitting that it was a plausible scenario but ultimately a conjecture based on facts from the Warren Commission. You can't make this kind of guy up.
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    Re: Cuban intelligence agencies recruit leftist professors

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    The best part is that he called out the book for admitting that it was a plausible scenario but ultimately a conjecture based on facts from the Warren Commission. You can't make this kind of guy up.
    You'd think that when someone gets beaten and shown to be wrong/dishonest as he was in this thread, he'd have the decency to admit he made an error. I must have given him 4 chances to do so. "The Cubans Had Kennedy Killed". A definitive statement. That was a good one.
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    Re: Cuban intelligence agencies recruit leftist professors

    No, those are facts. In fact, Oswald was an activist in support of communist Cuba. Look it up.

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    And that's not evidence. That's conjecture and supposition... and conspiracy theory.

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    Re: Cuban intelligence agencies recruit leftist professors

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    The Warren Commission is now fiction. Got it. You still don't see how bad you look when you don't recognize facts from conjecture do you? The Cubans killed Kennedy... conjecture. Oswald tried to defect to Cuba? Fact.
    Does this surprise anyone?
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    Re: Cuban intelligence agencies recruit leftist professors

    Quote Originally Posted by TobyOne View Post
    No, those are facts. In fact, Oswald was an activist in support of communist Cuba. Look it up.
    Which is irrelevant to the claim that apdst made. A fact can be a fact and have nothing to do with proving a theory. That's what happened here.
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    Re: Cuban intelligence agencies recruit leftist professors

    Facts are facts. Not conjecture or supposition. So, if you see facts, then recognize them as such and learn to differentiate between facts and conclusions. Thats how all this works. If the conclusion is conjecture that doesn't mean the premises are false.





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    And that's not evidence. That's conjecture and supposition... and conspiracy theory.
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    Which is irrelevant to the claim that apdst made. A fact can be a fact and have nothing to do with proving a theory. That's what happened here.

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    Re: Cuban intelligence agencies recruit leftist professors

    The Freemason's killed Kennedy.

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    Re: Cuban intelligence agencies recruit leftist professors

    Quote Originally Posted by TobyOne View Post
    No, those are facts. In fact, Oswald was an activist in support of communist Cuba. Look it up.
    Those facts don't support the claim that the Cubans killed Kennedy. Nobody has questioned that Oswald was trying to defect to Cuba (except apdst, who isn't privy to 50 year old info). Nobody questions that Oswald was a supporter of communism. What is being contested is that any of the aforementioned facts mean that a foreign power is responsible for the death of JFK.
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    Re: Cuban intelligence agencies recruit leftist professors

    Quote Originally Posted by TobyOne View Post
    Facts are facts. Not conjecture or supposition. So, if you see facts, then recognize them as such and learn to differentiate between facts and conclusions. Thats how all this works. If the conclusion is conjecture that doesn't mean the premises are false.
    If the conclusion is stated as a fact and the facts used to arrive at that conclusion aren't relevant, then the premises are the incorrect ones to use and whether they are false or not is irrelevant. This is pretty basic debating. In short, what apdst is doing is something like this:

    Premise 1:Dinosaurs are animals.
    Premise 2: Dogs are animals.
    Conclusion: Dinosaurs and dogs are the same thing because they're both animals.

    Non-sequiturs are a terrible way to argue.
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    Re: Cuban intelligence agencies recruit leftist professors

    Quote Originally Posted by TobyOne View Post
    Facts are facts. Not conjecture or supposition. So, if you see facts, then recognize them as such and learn to differentiate between facts and conclusions. Thats how all this works. If the conclusion is conjecture that doesn't mean the premises are false.
    See, I certainly have shown repeatedly the difference between facts and conclusions. apdst did not, which is what I pointed out. How this works is this: if you make a definitive statement and are asked to prove it, trying to prove it with conjecture doesn't cut it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
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    Had you been born elsewhere or at a different time you may very well have chosen a different belief system.
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    It a person has faith they dont need to convince another of it, and when a non believer is not interested in listening to the word of the lord, " you shake the dust from your sandels and move on"

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