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    Re: Jobs Report: U.S. Economy Added Just 142,000 Jobs In August, Unemployment Down To

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    I see, regulations....and health care reforms...are causing demand restrictions.

    As usual, supply-siders can't identify the issue within the economy.
    no we understand what is stopping the demand.

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    Re: Jobs Report: U.S. Economy Added Just 142,000 Jobs In August, Unemployment Down To

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    A relevant and very informative poll:

    Poll Results | IGM Forum

    The idea is hardly a contentious one among those who actually study this stuff for a living
    Bank of Japan risks QE failure: Economist

    " The unprecedented quantitative easing (QE) program the Bank of Japan launched last year to revive the country's stalled economy could be at risk of failure, Oxford Economics says.
    "Economic activity has indeed picked up since the QE program began early last year, but there are now serious warning signs that this progress may not be maintained," Adam Slater, senior economist at Oxford Economics wrote in a report."

    Forget Cyprus, Japan Is The Real Crisis - Forbes

    "Forget Cyprus. A much bigger story in the coming weeks and months will be in Japan, where one of the greatest economic experiments in the modern era is about to begin. A country where government debt even dwarfs those of Europe’s crisis-ridden nations, Japan will attempt to inflate its way out of a 23-year deflationary spiral.

    The overwhelming consensus among the world’s economists is that quantitative easing (QE) has saved the day in the U.S. and that Japan needs to follow suit, on a larger scale. "


    Japan's Lost Decade: Lessons from Japan's Economic Failure


    It's been tried before. I mean how blinded by Political ideology do you have to be to ignore one of the most glaring examples of the failures of Fiscal stimulus ?

    I mean, Japan has it's own sovereign currency and everything. The wen't through 10, TEN stimulus packages in the 90's and now are forced to tank their currency with monetary stimulus and force their interest rates down to almost nothing because just a couple of ticks up on interest rates and they would be for all intensive purposes bankrupt.

    That's great news for all of the holders of Japanese bonds. ( That's the Japanese people )

    Oh that's right, the MMT'ers here at DP claim a Nation with it's own sovereign currency CAN'T go bankrupt. Well then Japan would be forced to float their worthless currency and the savings for millions of Japanese citizens would be wiped out.

    How about we abandon the insanity of backing a failed economic agenda because we're ideologically predisposed to it and do things that work for a change.

    Because your'e seeing the results of ideology over functionality not only in Japan but here, in the States.
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    Re: Jobs Report: U.S. Economy Added Just 142,000 Jobs In August, Unemployment Down To

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Reduce the barriers to creating them, and seek to increase the profit margin from doing so.
    What barriers are there to demand that profit margins will effect?
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    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
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    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
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    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: Jobs Report: U.S. Economy Added Just 142,000 Jobs In August, Unemployment Down To

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    no we understand what is stopping the demand.
    Spell it out, how are "regulations" negatively effecting demand?
    Quote Originally Posted by trouble13 View Post
    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
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    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
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    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: Jobs Report: U.S. Economy Added Just 142,000 Jobs In August, Unemployment Down To

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    Sure, the vast numbers of consumers have cut back because of the lack of "confidence fairies", not because of declines in household wealth or real wage declines.

    Excellent analysis....confidence fairies.

    Japan? We shouldn't do infrastructure now because Japan did it in the 90's?

    FFS fen, you have little understanding of the current US situation...and you think a distraction to an economy you less about makes for good argument?

    We know that the very small level of actual infrastructure funding in the ARRA had a big return.....but this talk is just talk....funding will not come out of Congress. So not only is it pointless to debate you on DEMAND (since you think the issue is confidence fairies), it is even more pointless to expect a direct solution to demand via infrastructure spending.
    The Confidence " fairies " ??

    Did YOU author that FED article ??

    And a lack of consumer confidence is a far more accurate analysis than the rhetoric that's coming out of the White House.

    And no, we shouldn't buy into the whole " recovery through infrastructure spending " clap trap at all.

    For one, Obama already promised infrastructure and shovel ready jobs 6 years ago......he lied. So there's no reason to hand that guy another few hundred billion dollars

    It's like asking the local crack addict to make your bank deposits for you.

    Second, for a variety of reasons, it won't do a thing for our continued economic problems. For one thing Keynesian fiscal stimulus just DOESN'T WORK.

    It's money thrown down the drain ( Obama's Green Job's initiative ) and it doesn't address the real issues that are causing our extended economic misery.

    And yes, we SHOULD learn from the valuable examples of the failures of rampant deficit spending where-ever they occur.

    There's no reason not to, unless those failures contradict your Political ideology and in that case your just bending to a type of self imposed delusion.
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    Re: Jobs Report: U.S. Economy Added Just 142,000 Jobs In August, Unemployment Down To

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    "Bank of Japan risks QE failure: Economist"


    It's been tried before. I mean how blinded by Political ideology do you have to be to ignore one of the most glaring examples of the failures of Fiscal stimulus ?
    QE=Fiscal stimulus

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    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
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    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
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    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: Jobs Report: U.S. Economy Added Just 142,000 Jobs In August, Unemployment Down To

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    lack of consumer confidence is a far more accurate analysis
    Well, unless you are authoring FED articles, go ahead and provide documentation, links.....anything other than your sayso.
    Quote Originally Posted by trouble13 View Post
    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
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    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
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    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: Jobs Report: U.S. Economy Added Just 142,000 Jobs In August, Unemployment Down To

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Bank of Japan risks QE failure: Economist

    " The unprecedented quantitative easing (QE) program the Bank of Japan launched last year to revive the country's stalled economy could be at risk of failure, Oxford Economics says.
    "Economic activity has indeed picked up since the QE program began early last year, but there are now serious warning signs that this progress may not be maintained," Adam Slater, senior economist at Oxford Economics wrote in a report."

    Forget Cyprus, Japan Is The Real Crisis - Forbes


    "Forget Cyprus. A much bigger story in the coming weeks and months will be in Japan, where one of the greatest economic experiments in the modern era is about to begin. A country where government debt even dwarfs those of Europe’s crisis-ridden nations, Japan will attempt to inflate its way out of a 23-year deflationary spiral.

    The overwhelming consensus among the world’s economists is that quantitative easing (QE) has saved the day in the U.S. and that Japan needs to follow suit, on a larger scale. "


    Japan's Lost Decade: Lessons from Japan's Economic Failure


    It's been tried before. I mean how blinded by Political ideology do you have to be to ignore one of the most glaring examples of the failures of Fiscal stimulus ?

    I mean, Japan has it's own sovereign currency and everything. The wen't through 10, TEN stimulus packages in the 90's and now are forced to tank their currency with monetary stimulus and force their interest rates down to almost nothing because just a couple of ticks up on interest rates and they would be for all intensive purposes bankrupt.

    That's great news for all of the holders of Japanese bonds. ( That's the Japanese people )

    Oh that's right, the MMT'ers here at DP claim a Nation with it's own sovereign currency CAN'T go bankrupt. Well then Japan would be forced to float their worthless currency and the savings for millions of Japanese citizens would be wiped out.

    How about we abandon the insanity of backing a failed economic agenda because we're ideologically predisposed to it and do things that work for a change.

    Because your'e seeing the results of ideology over functionality not only in Japan but here, in the States.
    Spamming articles referring mostly to the failure of Japanese monetary policy won't cut it. We've got all sorts of data and experience that speaks to the growth that accompanies heightened levels of infrastructure spending here at home:

    Federal Reserve Bank San Francisco | Research, Economic Research, Federal Grants, Government Spending, Infrastructure, American Recovery and Reinvestment Act |

    https://www.economy.com/mark-zandi/d...ss_7_24_08.pdf

    http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/defa...rra-report.pdf

    If anything, the opposition to these ideas seems to be rooted in the political, rather than the economic arena. There's simply no credible data that would suggest heightened levels of spending in these areas to be ineffective.
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    Re: Jobs Report: U.S. Economy Added Just 142,000 Jobs In August, Unemployment Down To

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    Spell it out, how are "regulations" negatively effecting demand?
    regulations prevent businesses from expandin when they normally would. they cost businesses money which means either lower pay or less jobs that would normally be created.
    this means less money being generated for workers which leads to less demand.

    also more regulations that cost money means less pay raises. which again leads to less money.

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    Re: Jobs Report: U.S. Economy Added Just 142,000 Jobs In August, Unemployment Down To

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    regulations prevent businesses from expandin when they normally would. they cost businesses money which means either lower pay or less jobs that would normally be created.
    this means less money being generated for workers which leads to less demand.

    also more regulations that cost money means less pay raises. which again leads to less money.
    Cart before the horse....businesses will not hire until demand increases, they have no incentive to hire NOW because demand is low. You have to increase demand BEFORE hiring will happen.

    Stop standing on your head.
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    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moderate Right View Post
    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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