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Woman beheaded in broad daylight in a London garden[W:335:480]

Re: Woman beheaded in broad daylight in a London garden

Jerry said:
Just because a Muslim murders someone for their god doesn't mean they're a terrorist, because that's not what terrorism is. Jihad =/= terrorism.
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You do realize the word "terror" is the root word for terrorism?

Now, was this individuals intention terrorism? I don't think so, I believe it was religiously motivated, however those who adhere to Sharia are all terrorists.... If one is crazy enough to cut their own wife or daughters head off for religious reasons then certainly they could or have committed terrorist acts...

Besides, cutting a persons head off is terror regardless of the intent...

Do you really think Muslims do suicide bombings to scare people? NO, they commit those actions to kill non-Muslims and those who violate Sharia. Those actions are not meant for intimidation but rather punishment.
 
Mr.Nick said:
Sadly "honor killings" are far too common in the civilized world..... You would be shocked how often they happen even here in the US, not to mention UK - the media just doesn't report them as "honor killings" just killings...

Last year there were like 20 in the United States, I know that doesn't sound like a lot, but factor that into the minute Islamic population (maybe 3% of the US population) and that 20 becomes disturbing (as if only 1 wouldn't be)...

IMO, I have really never heard of someone cutting anothers head off while they're still alive other than honor killings....
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There may have been 20 reported but who really knows how many there actually were.

Take a look at these two stories and how each was reported, with one missing a very important detail.
4 suspects arrested in the slaying of 2 N.J. teens | NJ.com

Brendan Tevlin's Jihadist Revenge Murder Evidence That 'Domestic Terrorism Is Already Here' - Fox Nation
 
Grant said:
There may have been 20 reported but who really knows how many there actually were.

Take a look at these two stories and how each was reported, with one missing a very important detail.
4 suspects arrested in the slaying of 2 N.J. teens | NJ.com

Brendan Tevlin's Jihadist Revenge Murder Evidence That 'Domestic Terrorism Is Already Here' - Fox Nation
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Well in the first story the motive was never mentioned, and was portrayed to be a typical robbery...

With a name like "Ali Muhammad Brown" can't say I'm shocked...

IMO, that isn't only terrorism - it's a hate crime.
 
Mr.Nick said:
Well in the first story the motive was never mentioned, and was portrayed to be a typical robbery...

With a name like "Ali Muhammad Brown" can't say I'm shocked...

IMO, that isn't only terrorism - it's a hate crime.
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Yes, in the first report it was a robbery with no mention of Brown's religious convictions. In the second report we get to read that robbery was not the only motive, not even the main motive, as it was an act of terrorism against innocent people. No one has to murder innocent young people like these in order to rob them.
 
Grant said:
Yes, in the first report it was a robbery with no mention of Brown's religious convictions. In the second report we get to read that robbery was not the only motive, not even the main motive, as it was an act of terrorism against innocent people. No one has to murder innocent young people like these in order to rob them.
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Welcome to biased journalism 101....

This is why if I take an interest in a story I usually go to several sources - the funny part is they all have different spin on them...

The media is almost like getting conflicted witness statements...

Obviously the journalist that wrote the first story thought that motive was irrelevant because he/she is apparently a progressive and progressives leave those things out of their stories or bury them at the bottom of their stories if they portray a minority group negatively....
 
Mr.Nick said:
Welcome to biased journalism 101....

This is why if I take an interest in a story I usually go to several sources - the funny part is they all have different spin on them...

The media is almost like getting conflicted witness statements...

Obviously the journalist that wrote the first story thought that motive was irrelevant because he/she is apparently a progressive and progressives leave those things out of their stories or bury them at the bottom of their stories if they portray a minority group negatively....
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Yes, they feel they are the adults in the room and don't want to frighten the peasants with the truth.

Of course the police may have had their instructions also, which may have been the case in London recently.
 
Grant said:
Yes, they feel they are the adults in the room and don't want to frighten the peasants with the truth.

Of course the police may have had their instructions also, which may have been the case in London recently.
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I have lost all respect for the UK...... They're being overrun by Sharia lunatics and totally submit to them - that is how progressive they are, they're incapable of even socially defending their own damn country and they find it insensitive even challenging these radical Muslims. Hell, they have "Sharia patrols" in the UK now where militants walk around acting like they're the decency police - not to mention converting people on the spot...

Oh you can bet the police have instructions - treat Muslims "delicately."

Thank God in the US such a "militia" would be illegal here presently...
 
Where did you get this paranoiac nonsense? The Britain I live in bears no resemblance to the picture you scrawl from afar.
 
Let's not forget the British woman who was beheaded on holiday in Spain 3 years ago. By a mentally ill Bulgarian drug addict who thought he was God. In a place called Los Christianos. How ironic is that? It doesn't fit the "Muslims are all coming to get us!" meme, so it's ignored.
 
Manc Skipper said:
Let's not forget the British woman who was beheaded on holiday in Spain 3 years ago. By a mentally ill Bulgarian drug addict who thought he was God. In a place called Los Christianos. How ironic is that? It doesn't fit the "Muslims are all coming to get us!" meme, so it's ignored.
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That may be because Bulgarians murdering innocent people in the name of God is much rarer than Muslims doing it.
 
Mr.Nick said:
Sounds like another "honor killing" to me..... Why would someone cut another persons head off in broad daylight??? that isn't a typical way for murder.....
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Honor killing is don to members of the family. Where did you read these people were related?

Even if it was an honor killing, that's still not terrorism.
 
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Roadvirus said:
If a Muslim is murdering people for their God, it makes them an Extremist...and "Extremist" is another word for "Terrorist".
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Negative. Terrorism is a specific style of warfare. You can be an extremist and use a different style of warfare.
 
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Gardener said:
What the hell is being taught in British Mosques, anyway?
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What the Saudi's want taught. It's also being taught in student organizations at uni.
 
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Grant said:
You can debate my statements directly, okay? I never want to be identified with yours.
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What's that, a denial, lol.?
 
Manc Skipper said:
Where did you get this paranoiac nonsense? The Britain I live in bears no resemblance to the picture you scrawl from afar.
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Perhaps that's it's perception from Chicago.
 
Jerry said:
Honor killing is don to members of the family. Where did you read these people were related?

Even if it was an honor killing, that's still not terrorism.
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Your operational definition of terrorism is of little use. There can be many small acts intended to intimidate categories of people. They are terrorism as they seek to change our behavior in ways the intimidators intend.

It is time to fight back and do some intimidation of our own.
 
Misterveritis said:
Your operational definition of terrorism is of little use. There can be many small acts intended to intimidate categories of people. They are terrorism as they seek to change our behavior in ways the intimidators intend.

It is time to fight back and do some intimidation of our own.
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We've been doing that for 24 years now.
 
Jerry said:
We've been doing that for 24 years now.
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No, we haven't. Rather, we've gone in with half hearted half measures. Until we decide to win again all we will do is continue to see this type of political whack a mole.
 
j-mac said:
No, we haven't. Rather, we've gone in with half hearted half measures. Until we decide to win again all we will do is continue to see this type of political whack a mole.
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Intimidation is just a half measure.

Islam wants Armageddon, and so trying to intimidate Islamists with war is like trying to insult a waiter with a large tip. All out war is exactly what they want.
 
Jerry said:
trying to intimidate Islamists with war is like trying to insult a waiter with a large tip. All out war is exactly what they want.
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Nice analogy! And even better because it's true.
 
Jerry said:
Intimidation is just a half measure.

Islam wants Armageddon, and so trying to intimidate Islamists with war is like trying to insult a waiter with a large tip. All out war is exactly what they want.
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Where have any of these Islamic groups said they want "Armageddon"? The best place to learn of their intentions is to listen directly to what they are saying.
 
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