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Woman beheaded in broad daylight in a London garden[W:335:480]

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Grant said:
There are still many great Brits remaining, including the military, but they are being overwhelmed by the left, their ***** media and he rise of Islam. The rest of western Europe is worse than the UK.
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Sorry but I live here and that's completely wrong.And equating " the left " to immigration policy is a fallacy because it is the wish of the employing class to bring down wages
 
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Apologies too because in replying to quoted messages I missed the mod warning
 
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Grant said:
So the Russians and Chinese are smart whereas the Americans are stupid. Of course it could be that Russians and Chinese are more cautious around the Islamic fanatics as well, given that they've both suffered attacks.
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I dunno Grant. I'd be willing to bet that both the Russians, and the Chinese, are far more willing to take names and kick asses, than we, or our European counterparts are. They both have a pretty low tolerance when it comes to people getting out of line, and they don't seem to get too worried about collateral damage.
 
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Misterveritis said:
Was the perp an Islamist? Don't you think sawing off some poor, defenseless woman's head with a knife is a bit extreme?
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Maybe it's time to define the term " Islamist "

according to the online " free dictionary " it states

1. An Islamic revivalist movement, often characterized by moral conservatism, literalism, and the attempt to implement Islamic values in all spheres of life.
2. The religious faith, principles, or cause of Islam.
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Islamist - definition of Islamist by The Free Dictionary

AFAIK and judging by what one of his bosses said he, the man who committed the acts , never mentioned anything about Islam only to say " in passing " that he had converted to Islam 5 years previously and that apart from that he never spoke to the guy about religion or politics.
 
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oneworld2 said:
Apologies for the size of the picture , I don't know how to reduce it
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Next time, use tinypic.com.
 
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lizzie said:
Omg, that is what their ****ing press is calling Asian? Seriously? No wonder none of this makes sense. They wont even be honest about who and what they are dealing with.
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It's almost right up there with George Zimmerman and White Hispanic in the way of the ridiculous factor.
 
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Kurmugeon said:
To be fair, there was a time, during the crusades, that "Christians" did horribly barbaric things to innocent people. Many of those people were Muslims.

Also, our "Christian" treatment of many Native Americans during the colonial expansion west was .... Ghastly.

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Fair enough.

But what have Christians done recently that could be considered as barbaric and inhuman as what ISIS is doing in Iraq?
 
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oneworld2 said:
Maybe it's time to define the term " Islamist "

according to the online " free dictionary " it states
Islamist - definition of Islamist by The Free Dictionary

AFAIK and judging by what one of his bosses said he, the man who committed the acts , never mentioned anything about Islam only to say " in passing " that he had converted to Islam 5 years previously and that apart from that he never mentioned it.
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I see. How many other religions of peace saw off someone's head with a small knife at the first hint of displeasure?

I will use Islamist to mean an adherent of Muhammad. He was a political leader who used religion to get others to die in support of his causes. If there is such a thing as a moderate Muslim, which I doubt, then an Islamist is not one of them.
 
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Roadvirus said:
It's almost right up there with George Zimmerman and White Hispanic in the way of the ridiculous factor.
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I suspect that those who refer to them as Asian are just hoping that it presents them in a more positive light. I know that over here, Asians are generally viewed very positively, as they tend to be industrious, intelligent, and very pleasant to deal with.
 
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Misterveritis said:
I see. How many other religions of peace saw off someone's head with a small knife at the first hint of displeasure?
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" Religions " don't but people do. AFAIK according to reports the man had a 1 ft long " machette "
I will use Islamist to mean an adherent of Muhammad. He was a political leader who used religion to get others to die in support of his causes. If there is such a thing as a moderate Muslim, which I doubt, then an Islamist is not one of them.
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I thought the inference was that he was a jihadist. Hence the references to " terrorism " ( however lame ) ?

That he was a recent Muslim convert imo doesn't imply that he was a jihadist. Just someone who had lost the plot and just so happened to be a Muslim
 
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oneworld2 said:
Sorry but I live here and that's completely wrong.And equating " the left " to immigration policy is a fallacy because it is the wish of the employing class to bring down wages
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It seems Leftists are much the same everywhere.
 
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lizzie said:
I dunno Grant. I'd be willing to bet that both the Russians, and the Chinese, are far more willing to take names and kick asses, than we, or our European counterparts are. They both have a pretty low tolerance when it comes to people getting out of line, and they don't seem to get too worried about collateral damage.
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I think you're right but was giving an alternative to the point money was making. They may be able to take more action against Islamic terrorism because of less international scrutiny.
 
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Gardener said:
Which also explains much of the terrorism. When people are taught they are superior but live in relative squalor because of those very teachings, they lash out in rage against those who make them feel inferior by having achieved such progress.
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The sword is the new 'equalizer'.
 
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Montecresto said:
Um, no. How'd you come up with that. My point is that both Russia and China have been pushing back on the US since Bush's war in Iraq, politically, and more recently economically, and militarily with increasing "incidents" as the bureaucrats like to say it. But then I suppose we're saying little about the poor woman who was beheaded, and the fact that there are those insisting that it was a crime associated with Muslim extremists.
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He was a Muslim and his behavior was extreme. What more can be said?
 
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oneworld2 said:
" Religions " don't but people do. AFAIK according to reports the man had a 1 ft long " machette "
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How many religions of peace encourage their followers to saw peoples heads off with small knives?

A one foot long machete is a small knife.

I thought the inference was that he was a jihadist. Hence the references to " terrorism " ( however lame ) ?
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Islam is based in jihad. I assume it. I did not say he was a jihadist. I said Islamist.

That he was a recent Muslim convert imo doesn't imply that he was a jihadist. Just someone who had lost the plot and just so happened to be a Muslim
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I assume lost the plot is GB for insane. He happened to be a Muslim with a small knife and a minor quirk of sawing one woman's head off.
 
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Some have said the guy is mentally ill and to not judge him so harshly. Sorry ain't buying that one anymore. He was a Nigerian Muslim convert in his twenties. He pretty much fits the depiction of many who are joining ISIS. He takes a machete and beheads an 82 year old defenseless white woman. She neither had the ability to run from him or defend herself. Much like those Muslim fanatics of ISIs where they cut a five year old Christian boy in half and buried women and children alive in a mass grave. Big ass mean bastards with guns killing defenseless women and children. Bastards. But then again when it comes to Muslim men in countries throughout the world I see a total disrespect for women/children especially girls. Take Afghanistan and the Taliban, another offshoot of Islam men where women/girls are not allowed to get an education and forced to wear burkas. They treat their goats better than they do their women. Take the terrorist group Boko Haram another stellar Islam example, abduct school girls, rape and force them into marriage. Take Hamas another Islamic group where they use their women and children as shields to hide behind. Sorry, I have no respect for Muslim men neither those involved in these fanatic groups nor those so called moderates who can't seem to find their voices to speak up against such violence. Enough of making excuses for the inexcusable! The UK by bending over backwards to be political correct in multiculturalism has its roosters coming home to roost. They got another problem out of control and that is Islamic Rape gangs where they abduct young girls get them hooked on herion and then gang bang them. Just another example of how Muslim men hate women.

Islamic Rape Gangs: Rotherham is Just the Tip of the Iceberg
 
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vesper said:
Some have said the guy is mentally ill and to not judge him so harshly.
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I know. Those mentally ill people are just hiding behind their diagnosis, aren't they?

Sorry ain't buying that one anymore. He was a Nigerian Muslim convert in his twenties. He pretty much fits the depiction of many who are joining ISIS. He takes a machete and beheads an 82 year old defenseless white woman.
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She wasn't a white woman. That probably changes everything, doesn't it?
 
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vesper said:
Some have said the guy is mentally ill and to not judge him so harshly. Sorry ain't buying that one anymore. He was a Nigerian Muslim convert in his twenties. He pretty much fits the depiction of many who are joining ISIS. He takes a machete and beheads an 82 year old defenseless white woman. She neither had the ability to run from him or defend herself. Much like those Muslim fanatics of ISIs where they cut a five year old Christian boy in half and buried women and children alive in a mass grave. Big ass mean bastards with guns killing defenseless women and children. Bastards. But then again when it comes to Muslim men in countries throughout the world I see a total disrespect for women/children especially girls. Take Afghanistan and the Taliban, another offshoot of Islam men where women/girls are not allowed to get an education and forced to wear burkas. They treat their goats better than they do their women. Take the terrorist group Boko Haram another stellar Islam example, abduct school girls, rape and force them into marriage. Take Hamas another Islamic group where they use their women and children as shields to hide behind. Sorry, I have no respect for Muslim men neither those involved in these fanatic groups nor those so called moderates who can't seem to find their voices to speak up against such violence. Enough of making excuses for the inexcusable! The UK by bending over backwards to be political correct in multiculturalism has its roosters coming home to roost. They got another problem out of control and that is Islamic Rape gangs where they abduct young girls get them hooked on herion and then gang bang them. Just another example of how Muslim men hate women.

Islamic Rape Gangs: Rotherham is Just the Tip of the Iceberg
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There is a great deal more evidence on their hateful attitudes toward women but that seems to be glossed over as being a little too insensitive. In fact mentioning Muslims and decapitation in the same sentence often offends some remarkably sensitive people.
 
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Andalublue said:
I know. Those mentally ill people are just hiding behind their diagnosis, aren't they?

She wasn't a white woman. That probably changes everything, doesn't it?
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She looks pretty white to me.

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Grant said:
There is a great deal more evidence on their hateful attitudes toward women but that seems to be glossed over as being a little too insensitive. In fact mentioning Muslims and decapitation in the same sentence often offends some remarkably sensitive people.
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Yes their behavior toward women is appalling and much more evidence abounds. Well it is time to stop walking on eggshells and start telling it like it is.
 
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Gardener said:
You don't think decapitating somebody is extreme?
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For a sane person, yes.

But if you're dealing with a nutjob, pretty much anything is possible.
 
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Andalublue said:
I know. Those mentally ill people are just hiding behind their diagnosis, aren't they?

She wasn't a white woman. That probably changes everything, doesn't it?
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Do you have the diagnosis? And whether she was white or not makes no difference whatsoever but, in any case, she and her family were from Italy.
 
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Andalublue said:
Do you concede he may have been mentally ill?
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If you say he may have been mentally ill then of course he well might have been. But that goes for anyone who decapitates innocent people, whether it's in a London suburb or an Iraqi desert.
 
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