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    Re: Woman beheaded in broad daylight in a London garden

    Only 653 murders, what a bunch of woosies. We do better than that on a good summer weekend.
    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    Because in Britain they are rarely ever dealing with armed suspects. The U.K. had 653 intentional homicides in 2011. In the United States we had 14,827. I am not defending the militarization of the police in the USA, but its bad comparison between the police in the USA and those in the UK as the USA is a lot more violent and dangerous place than the UK is.
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    Re: Woman beheaded in broad daylight in a London garden

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    Because in Britain they are rarely ever dealing with armed suspects. The U.K. had 653 intentional homicides in 2011. In the United States we had 14,827. I am not defending the militarization of the police in the USA, but its bad comparison between the police in the USA and those in the UK as the USA is a lot more violent and dangerous place than the UK is.
    Correlation does not necessarily mean causation.
    And you are being misleading is your statistics.... the U.S. population is like 6 times larger than the UKs.

    Another fact about European countries is they are vastly more homogeneous than America. In the UK 87% of the people are Caucasian with the next highest population group being Black with 3%. In America it is 63% and the next highest group is 17% and the next 12%. This results in much greater cultural differences... also not to mention the Geography of America is vastly different than that of the UK which is on its own little island.

    For example African American's account for over 50% of all murders in the US from 1980-2008 even though they represent only 12% of the population.

    The combination of greater population totals, different cultures and ethnic groups, and geography makes these to Countries completely incomparable in that respect.
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    Re: Woman beheaded in broad daylight in a London garden

    Quote Originally Posted by celticwar17 View Post
    Correlation does not necessarily mean causation.
    And you are being misleading is your statistics.... the U.S. population is like 6 times larger than the UKs.

    Another fact about European countries is they are vastly more homogeneous than America. In the UK 87% of the people are Caucasian with the next highest population group being Black with 3%. In America it is 63% and the next highest group is 17% and the next 12%. This results in much greater cultural differences... also not to mention the Geography of America is vastly different than that of the UK which is on its own little island.

    The combination of greater population totals, different cultures and ethnic groups, and geography makes these to Countries completely incomparable in that respect.
    I am not meaning to imply causation, I am just pointing out that the UK is a much more peaceful country than we are. Thus you can't really compare the fact their police are unarmed usually and ours can be armed like a military force. Moreover, population differences aside we still have better than 4 times the murder rate that they have in the UK.
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    Re: Woman beheaded in broad daylight in a London garden

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    I am not meaning to imply causation, I am just pointing out that the UK is a much more peaceful country than we are. Thus you can't really compare the fact their police are unarmed usually and ours can be armed like a military force. Moreover, population differences aside we still have better than 4 times the murder rate that they have in the UK.
    I think violence is much easier to contain on a homogeneous island... than the opposite...which is my point.

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    Re: Woman beheaded in broad daylight in a London garden

    Quote Originally Posted by HonestJoe View Post
    That's what the tabloid trash are trying to make us think. They want riots on the streets because that sells lots of papers.

    He may well be a Muslim convert, though that's only coming from unnamed sources as are the statements about "beheading". It wouldn't be the first time if the tabloids got that wrong (or made it up).

    The official police statements make clear that there doesn't seem to be any kind of terrorist-related motivation and the descriptions of events certainly point towards some kind of psychological episode.

    The truth will come out in time (though not necessarily on the front pages) but that will sadly leave plenty of scope of the trolls and opportunists to stir things up. Please don't play along with them.
    There will be plenty of riots there anyway-your nation is flooded with Sharia proponents. Its not going to turn out well, I think.

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    Re: Woman beheaded in broad daylight in a London garden

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    Have you seen the crime rate in London?
    Isn't the UK's crime rate one of the highest in Europe?

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    Re: Woman beheaded in broad daylight in a London garden

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    In an age when London is a worldwide terrorist epicenter and those beheading journalists speak with a British accent, I would think a few more Brits might want to stand up and take notice.
    Maybe they are taking notice, but aren't voicing their opinion for fear of being prosecuted under whatever draconian "racism" laws the UK has in place.

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    Re: Woman beheaded in broad daylight in a London garden

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Got a link to this? I wouldn't be surprised. This sounds like an islamist thing, and the UK is (understandably) trying to downplay it.
    The government wants it downplayed so it doesn't ruin the perception that the social experiment known as "Multiculturalism" is a massive failure.

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    Re: Woman beheaded in broad daylight in a London garden

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    Why is it the conservatives want to lable everything terrorism? Is it simply Muslim hate?
    Even if not terrorism, there are suggestible people, perhaps like recent islamist converts who might be driven to such things. We cant discount that.

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    Re: Woman beheaded in broad daylight in a London garden

    Quote Originally Posted by Roadvirus View Post
    The government wants it downplayed so it doesn't ruin the perception that the social experiment known as "Multiculturalism" is a massive failure.
    No doubt, because these tensions are made worse when vastly different cultures are living in close quarters. Crime rates are higher in multicultural neighborhoods-but I think this is more than just a simple murder. Its reasonable to suggest that Islam had an influence on this guys actions.

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