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    Re: Woman beheaded in broad daylight in a London garden

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    If Muslims did more to control their own extremists, a banner wouldn't be needed. And really - only the right carries it?
    I get so effing tired of this stupid stuff, sometimes, that I want to puke.How did we get to the point where "the left" automatically defends Islamism? Why is only "the right" objecting to it?

    This anti-humanist ideology affects us all, it is against every liberal value we hold dear in western culture, and we should all be equally concerned, yet the battle lines keep getting drawn more and more severely by people who think they just HAVE to defend Islamism to earn their lefty cred.

    good grief.
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    Re: Woman beheaded in broad daylight in a London garden

    Quote Originally Posted by Arcana XV View Post
    Most of the people I interact with on these forums are not really anti Muslim, but anti radical Islam. I mean who wouldn't be? These people are nucking futs. I just wish people wouldn't just repeat sketchy, unconfirmed or often downright false allegations until all the facts are in.
    With plenty of support on this board, the US has killed depending on who's figures you accept, tens of thousands to hundreds of thousands of ordinary Muslim civilians in the ME. Our predator drone program alone has a terrible success rate, killing a huge disproportionate number of civilians to aledged enemy combatants. There most certainly is anti-Muslim sentiment on this board. Otherwise, EVERYBODY is opposed to radical Islam. Well, maybe excepting our government with a history of support of militant Islamists.
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    Re: Woman beheaded in broad daylight in a London garden

    Again, I know this is kinda difficult to understand. As far as I can tell there is no one here defending Islam. We are questioning the evidence Islam caused or contributed to this murder. The "right" seems to be looking for confirmation bias and finds it many places where there is no evidence.
    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    I get so effing tired of this stupid stuff, sometimes, that I want to puke.How did we get to the point where "the left" automatically defends Islamism? Why is only "the right" objecting to it?

    This anti-humanist ideology affects us all, it is against every liberal value we hold dear in western culture, and we should all be equally concerned, yet the battle lines keep getting drawn more and more severely by people who think they just HAVE to defend Islamism to earn their lefty cred.

    good grief.
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    Re: Woman beheaded in broad daylight in a London garden

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    Again, I know this is kinda difficult to understand. As far as I can tell there is no one here defending Islam. We are questioning the evidence Islam caused or contributed to this murder. The "right" seems to be looking for confirmation bias and finds it many places where there is no evidence.
    You think, maybe, that it's common for Lutherins or Episcopalians to behead people according to their religious tenets, do you?
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    Re: Woman beheaded in broad daylight in a London garden

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    Butter knife?
    Depends how you carry it. In this country, a bit more strict about weapons than Britain, the police will take you down for ti if they believe it is being brandished as a weapon. We don't use tasers either, you go down by physical force or by gun.
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    Re: Woman beheaded in broad daylight in a London garden

    I think maybe it might have something to do with being bat **** crazy. But so far I have seen nuthing to lead me to beleive it is terrorist related.
    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    You think, maybe, that it's common for Lutherins or Episcopalians to behead people according to their religious tenets, do you?
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    Re: Woman beheaded in broad daylight in a London garden

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Most bigotry originates there, yes. But of course there are exceptions to every rule. And what the hell do you mean by suggesting Muslims are responsible for the crimes of a few radical Muslims. Are christians in general responsible for the radicals amongst their midst?
    I suggested that Muslims should be controlling their own more than they are. I said nothing about responsibility which you well know.

    Christians who know about radicals in their ranks and do nothing to notify authorities are JUST as responsible for actions of those radicals morally - yes.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Woman beheaded in broad daylight in a London garden

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    I think maybe it might have something to do with being bat **** crazy. But so far I have seen nuthing to lead me to beleive it is terrorist related.
    Bat **** crazy and religion are not mutually exclusive concepts.

    Like I said in the very beginning -- take one crazy person, expose them to radical religious teachings and watch the results.

    If it is true that he is a recent convert, this makes PERFECT sense, since anybody with a decent understanding of human psychology understands that these can be the most zealous people.
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    Re: Woman beheaded in broad daylight in a London garden

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    I suggested that Muslims should be controlling their own more than they are. I said nothing about responsibility which you well know.

    Christians who know about radicals in their ranks and do nothing to notify authorities are JUST as responsible for actions of those radicals morally - yes.
    Montecresto actually THANKED a post that said all legal restrictions should be removed to killing Jews.

    That will tell you all you need to know about his false cries about bigotry.
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    Re: Woman beheaded in broad daylight in a London garden

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    This was a deranged guy.. he was running around shouting about cats. It is tragic as hell, but it was not terror but just a very sick individual gone nuts. Of course that does not stop the Newscorp empire from making this into an anti Muslim story.. but hey!
    The Muslim extremists are deranged very sick individuals, too. I'm not surprised there's some confusion about whether this sick bastard was a Muslim or not.
    You can't reason anyone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into in the first place.

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