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    Re: Woman beheaded in broad daylight in a London garden[W:335:480]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Speculation that the murderers in these sorts of crimes was muted when they first began and many said wait before a rush to judgement was made. Now its gone the other direction. It is now reasonably safe to assume when murders of this nature occur Muslims are involved.
    Even if that were true, it's not the point.

    You claimed that the fact the suspect is Muslim was the first thing we learned about him from the police. That remains a lie. There's no point discussing this kind of thing if you're just going to make stuff up.

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    Re: Woman beheaded in broad daylight in a London garden[W:335:480]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    I often hear these denials after similar incidents that the perpetrators were not really Muslims or that the incident wasn't terrorism. Instead it is classified as 'workplace violence' or some such nonsense.
    Are you seriously suggesting that the person who committed this act did so to try to get a change of British foreign policy ? I made this same point to your friend Gardener when he referred to the incident as " not terrorism in the classic sense " or some such nonsense.

    The man is clearly unstable and according to one of his bosses never spoke about religion or politics and had only told him " in passing " that he had converted to Islam sometime previously.

    You people will clutch at any straw to make a " terrorist " connection , no matter how tenuous or ridiculous it is
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    Re: Woman beheaded in broad daylight in a London garden[W:335:480]

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    Are you seriously suggesting that the person who committed this act did so to try to get a change of British foreign policy ? I made this same point to your friend Gardener when he referred to the incident as " not terrorism in the classic sense " or some such nonsense.

    The man is clearly unstable and according to one of his bosses never spoke about religion or politics and had only told him " in passing " that he had converted to Islam sometime previously.

    You people will clutch at any straw to make a " terrorist " connection , no matter how tenuous or ridiculous it is
    So you think the Muslims beheading journalists and aid workers are 'stable'? Or those who planned to behead Aussies? Or those who planted bombs in the Boston Marathon, or the many dozens of similar acts which take place every year?

    Why is important to you whether this guy is a real Muslim terrorist or a pretend Muslim terrorist?

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    Re: Woman beheaded in broad daylight in a London garden[W:335:480]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    So you think the Muslims beheading journalists and aid workers are 'stable'? Or those who planned to behead Aussies? Or those who planted bombs in the Boston Marathon, or the many dozens of similar acts which take place every year?
    Nope, I think these people are terrorists. They carry out violent acts against groups or individuals to instil a sense of terror/fear against another group in order to change that groups actions/intentions ,or in the case of governments, their policies. The examples you cite yourself confirm this. The beheading of journalists by IS was a response to US intervention against them in Iraq.

    The surviving member of the Boston bombing duo reportedly said the act was in response to the US invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq

    Why is important to you whether this guy is a real Muslim terrorist or a pretend Muslim terrorist?
    The above just shows how crazy you people are and highlights precisely what your agenda is , as if anyone with the capacity to think straight hadn't sussed that out already. ( to try to link ANY act committed by a Muslim to "terrorism" , IE Muslim=Terrorist )

    The choices you have given confirm the above, IE the man is either a " real Muslim terrorist " or is he just a " pretend Muslim terrorist " ? There is no option given to consider whether he is a terrorist at all or that he is a man who has lost the plot and just so happens to be a Muslim ( my view at this point )

    The evidence from some witnesses claim he was running around claiming that " cats had stolen/taken his lighter ". One of his bosses claimed that he never mentioned religion or politics. Not one of the people who were quoted in the Telegraph article mentioned anything about any over zealous religious sentiments expressed by the man himself.

    But you people completely ignore all of this because it completely undermines your claims and your agenda ,which is to try to spread religious/ethnic hatred.
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    Re: Woman beheaded in broad daylight in a London garden[W:335:480]

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon Feltser View Post
    A 25-year-old man was arrested in connection with the death of a woman who was reportedly beheaded in the back garden of a North London home on Thursday afternoon. Officers used a Taser to apprehend the suspect, who is being treated at a hospital for injuries, according to Huffington Post UK. One officer also suffered a broken wrist, police said in a statement.
    Woman reportedly beheaded in broad daylight in a London garden - The Washington Post

    Well, it`s terrible. And we don`t know wether it was the attack terror-related or not. And another point in this: "officers used a taser to apprehend the suspect". I note that this is a dangerous criminal, rather than a simple thief. Why do our policemen shoot-to-kill in any situation?
    The police officers have to assess how dangerous the situation is and respond accordingly; I'm not going to pretend they get it right all the time but there probably will have been an armed response unit nearby. If you look at how armed units dealt with Lee Rigby's killers (Adebowale and Adebowalo) by shooting to incapacitate even when the killers ran at police holding firearms shows that the training is to try and apprehend first so that they can be brought to justice.

    I think the last shooting to death by UK police was Mark Duggan in 2012 (his was the only fatality that year by police marksmen) but even then - we get soul-searching like this to ask whether we live in "trigger happy Britain."

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    Re: Woman beheaded in broad daylight in a London garden[W:335:480]

    Quote Originally Posted by oneworld2 View Post
    Are you seriously suggesting that the person who committed this act did so to try to get a change of British foreign policy ? I made this same point to your friend Gardener when he referred to the incident as " not terrorism in the classic sense " or some such nonsense.

    The man is clearly unstable and according to one of his bosses never spoke about religion or politics and had only told him " in passing " that he had converted to Islam sometime previously.


    You people will clutch at any straw to make a " terrorist " connection , no matter how tenuous or ridiculous it is
    And some will deny the obvious connection, no matter how ridiculous.

    Radicalization and murder by beheading or bombing is largely connected with the political-religion of Islam and with the Islamofascists. Murdering someone by cutting off the victim's head brings to mind the goals of Islam, the subjugation of the entire world's populace, even if the perp never mentioned Islam.

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    Re: Woman beheaded in broad daylight in a London garden[W:335:480]

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon Feltser View Post
    A 25-year-old man was arrested in connection with the death of a woman who was reportedly beheaded in the back garden of a North London home on Thursday afternoon. Officers used a Taser to apprehend the suspect, who is being treated at a hospital for injuries, according to Huffington Post UK. One officer also suffered a broken wrist, police said in a statement.
    Woman reportedly beheaded in broad daylight in a London garden - The Washington Post

    Well, it`s terrible. And we don`t know wether it was the attack terror-related or not. And another point in this: "officers used a taser to apprehend the suspect". I note that this is a dangerous criminal, rather than a simple thief. Why do our policemen shoot-to-kill in any situation?
    I'm all for the cops ventilating the guy right there. He beheaded a woman? Jeez.
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    Re: Woman beheaded in broad daylight in a London garden[W:335:480]

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    I'm all for the cops ventilating the guy right there. He beheaded a woman? Jeez.
    Of course this guy deserves severe punishment. I do not condone him. But on the other hand, the police must always be humane. And the British police does the right thing. But our police doesn't know the concept of humanity. They believe they can do anything. We live in a police state

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    Re: Woman beheaded in broad daylight in a London garden[W:335:480]

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    And some will deny the obvious connection, no matter how ridiculous.

    Radicalization and murder by beheading or bombing is largely connected with the political-religion of Islam and with the Islamofascists. Murdering someone by cutting off the victim's head brings to mind the goals of Islam, the subjugation of the entire world's populace, even if the perp never mentioned Islam.
    And some will call for international crimes as a response to the actions of one man who thought cats had stolen his lighter
    There never has been a peace process, but rather an annexation process that used the “peace process” as a facade

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    Re: Woman beheaded in broad daylight in a London garden[W:335:480]

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon Feltser View Post
    Of course this guy deserves severe punishment. I do not condone him. But on the other hand, the police must always be humane. And the British police does the right thing. But our police doesn't know the concept of humanity. They believe they can do anything. We live in a police state
    Well gee, I am glad you don't condone it. Maybe you can take him in and give him a warm blanket and a hug.
    Members of the Brit police stood by and watched as a Brit soldier was killed in the street by men with knives. Very humane.

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