Both of those nuggets of information came from the media reporting what random people in the area told them. The validity and accuracy of such statements can vary so you should be cautious putting too much faith in them.
Guys, I started this conversation with a different idea.
I think it's clear to understand who are these "some"
My general warning about caution regarding media statements immediately following such incidents was exactly that; a suggestion of caution, not a claim they're always untrue or necessarily were in this example.