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    Re: Woman beheaded in broad daylight in a London garden[W:335:480]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    How about this? Any Islamic connection? The Islamic State of Sexual Violence
    You're such a bigot and scaredy cat.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Woman beheaded in broad daylight in a London garden[W:335:480]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    The first thing we learned after the woman was beheaded was that he was a Muslim. How did the police know that unless he told them? They certainly wouldn't have asked.
    The police didn't say he was Muslim - it's not the kind of thing British police will typically announce. They didn't (and I believe still haven't) say the victim was beheaded either.

    Both of those nuggets of information came from the media reporting what random people in the area told them. The validity and accuracy of such statements can vary so you should be cautious putting too much faith in them.

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    Re: Woman beheaded in broad daylight in a London garden[W:335:480]

    Guys, I started this conversation with a different idea.
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    I think it's clear to understand who are these "some"

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    Re: Woman beheaded in broad daylight in a London garden[W:335:480]

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    You're such a bigot and scaredy cat.
    Facts aren't racist.

    Put your race card away.

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    Re: Woman beheaded in broad daylight in a London garden[W:335:480]

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    You're such a bigot and scaredy cat.
    Bigot against what? And does being silent on the rape and murder of women and children make you a brave man? I don't think so.

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    Re: Woman beheaded in broad daylight in a London garden[W:335:480]

    Quote Originally Posted by HonestJoe View Post
    The police didn't say he was Muslim - it's not the kind of thing British police will typically announce. They didn't (and I believe still haven't) say the victim was beheaded either.

    Both of those nuggets of information came from the media reporting what random people in the area told them. The validity and accuracy of such statements can vary so you should be cautious putting too much faith in them.
    Yeah, sure.

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    Re: Woman beheaded in broad daylight in a London garden[W:335:480]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Yeah, sure.
    Sorry, I'm not sure what your point is here. Are you expressing scepticism at some part of my post and if so which one?

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    Re: Woman beheaded in broad daylight in a London garden[W:335:480]

    Quote Originally Posted by HonestJoe View Post
    Sorry, I'm not sure what your point is here. Are you expressing scepticism at some part of my post and if so which one?
    I often hear these denials after similar incidents that the perpetrators were not really Muslims or that the incident wasn't terrorism. Instead it is classified as 'workplace violence' or some such nonsense.

    "Fat Nick", the murderer, converted to Islam five years ago.

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    Re: Woman beheaded in broad daylight in a London garden[W:335:480]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    I often hear these denials after similar incidents that the perpetrators were not really Muslims or that the incident wasn't terrorism. Instead it is classified as 'workplace violence' or some such nonsense.
    I wasn't denying that the suspect is Muslim. I was denying your claim that "it was the first thing we learned" and the implication that information came from the police.

    My general warning about caution regarding media statements immediately following such incidents was exactly that; a suggestion of caution, not a claim they're always untrue or necessarily were in this example.

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    Re: Woman beheaded in broad daylight in a London garden[W:335:480]

    Quote Originally Posted by HonestJoe View Post
    I wasn't denying that the suspect is Muslim. I was denying your claim that "it was the first thing we learned" and the implication that information came from the police.

    My general warning about caution regarding media statements immediately following such incidents was exactly that; a suggestion of caution, not a claim they're always untrue or necessarily were in this example.
    Speculation that the murderers in these sorts of crimes was muted when they first began and many said wait before a rush to judgement was made. Now its gone the other direction. It is now reasonably safe to assume when murders of this nature occur Muslims are involved.

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