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    Re: Woman beheaded in broad daylight in a London garden[W:335]

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    Projecting again, I see. I have never used the word Aryan to describe anybody, ever. I merely pointed out that when someone said that a black Moslem had murdered a white lady, that she wasn't white. I believe Mrs Silva to have been of mixed race - Italian and African-Brazilian. If asked I would have told anyone that Barack Obama isn't white either. I guess that would be a racist observation to you too.
    Ah. I was gonna go after you next! I was wondering why you would say that she's not white. She actually looks more Portuguese than Italian to me, but you could be right about her being from Brazil. I think her late husband was definitely Italian.
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    Re: Woman beheaded in broad daylight in a London garden

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Timothy McVeigh happened to be a Christian. He also happened to commit a crime far more horrific then this mentally ill fella in London. Did we label his crime an act of Christian extremism?
    Probably not since religion was not his motive, as far as I know, but rather perceived tyrranical acts by the US govt.
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    Re: Woman beheaded in broad daylight in a London garden

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    Probably not since religion was not his motive, as far as I know, but rather perceived tyrranical acts by the US govt.
    But still, there are many among the left that indeed DO link McVeigh to his supposed Christian faith in the effort to excuse today's caliphate of radical Islam.
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    Re: Woman beheaded in broad daylight in a London garden

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    A journey into the mind of 'Jihadi John’ - Telegraph

    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/25/wo...tion.html?_r=0

    "Deobandi madrassas produce imams who press radical attitudes on British Muslims. Most British Muslims are moderate, traditional, and reject and resent the fundamentalist invasion. But in the streets of East London and other cities with large Muslim communities, Deobandi agitation is a daily fact of life. Student groups such as the Isoc at LSBU and others affiliated with FOSIS provide an alternative source for the transmission of radical doctrines.

    It has been asserted widely that Deobandis now control a majority of British mosques. Although they may have gained institutional leverage, they have not won over the majority of British believers in Islam. Moderate British Muslims must take back our mosques and university student societies from the extremists and work to drive the Deobandis out of all positions they have captured."

    Radicalization of Young British Muslims

    There are signs and studies all over Britain...That you choose to speak in terms of proving something that is readily apparent to anyone with common sense speaks more of your unwillingness to be honest in the discussion than it does disprove anything...
    Fail after fail. Come on, try to stick to at least the very vaguest relevance to the topic of Mrs Silva's beheading. You don't seem to be able to dredge up a single fact suggesting that innocent 82-year-old ladies, even Christian or Jewish ones, should be beheaded, as was your claim.

    Do we need reminding that there are radical Islamist groups at work in British mosques? No, I don't think we do. But in your glorious failure you have been impotently incapable of:

    1. Connecting 'Fat Nick' Salvadore to any radical imam or mosque
    2. Explaining why he shouted "cat stole my lighter" as he attacked rather than something like "Allahu akhbar"
    3. That any of even the most radical Islamist nutters have been calling for the decapitation of 82-year-old grandmothers


    Now it has been widely reported that the suspect was a recent convert to Islam, hence the assumption of the crusader brigade here that that was what must be responsible for his violent inclinations. Less reported is the fact that he is a cage fighter. I guess that would have no relevance in explaining his violent urges, psychotic or otherwise, now would it?
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    Re: Woman beheaded in broad daylight in a London garden

    I know of no "lefty" that uses that example to excuse the caliphate. They use it to point out, yet again, the hypocracy of the Right. I know it is kinda nuanced...
    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    But still, there are many among the left that indeed DO link McVeigh to his supposed Christian faith in the effort to excuse today's caliphate of radical Islam.
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    Re: Woman beheaded in broad daylight in a London garden

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Probably not since religion was not his motive, as far as I know, but rather perceived tyrranical acts by the US govt.
    Has anyone produced a shred of evidence that Fat Nick's motivation for his attack on Mrs Silva was in any way motivated by religion?
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    Re: Woman beheaded in broad daylight in a London garden

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    Fail after fail. Come on, try to stick to at least the very vaguest relevance to the topic of Mrs Silva's beheading. You don't seem to be able to dredge up a single fact suggesting that innocent 82-year-old ladies, even Christian or Jewish ones, should be beheaded, as was your claim.

    Do we need reminding that there are radical Islamist groups at work in British mosques? No, I don't think we do. But in your glorious failure you have been impotently incapable of:

    1. Connecting 'Fat Nick' Salvadore to any radical imam or mosque
    2. Explaining why he shouted "cat stole my lighter" as he attacked rather than something like "Allahu akhbar"
    3. That any of even the most radical Islamist nutters have been calling for the decapitation of 82-year-old grandmothers


    Now it has been widely reported that the suspect was a recent convert to Islam, hence the assumption of the crusader brigade here that that was what must be responsible for his violent inclinations. Less reported is the fact that he is a cage fighter. I guess that would have no relevance in explaining his violent urges, psychotic or otherwise, now would it?
    Oh, I see....I must answer your direct challenge to your shifting satisfactory of what is acceptable to you...No thanks...You asserted that No Mosques were radicalizing British youth, and that I couldn't prove it....I answered and like most dishonest people that defend radical Islam, you attempt to shift the goal posts retroactively...Too bad for you that your posting is available for rational people to read, and see your dishonesty on 100% display....Good day.
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    Re: Woman beheaded in broad daylight in a London garden[W:335]

    Quote Originally Posted by Arcana XV View Post
    Ah. I was gonna go after you next! I was wondering why you would say that she's not white. She actually looks more Portuguese than Italian to me, but you could be right about her being from Brazil. I think her late husband was definitely Italian.
    I listened to a phone-in on BBC London in which a neighbour gave that information. I've not heard it confirmed officially, but when someone plays the old "evil black man murders innocent white woman" race card, it seems appropriate to point it out.
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    Re: Woman beheaded in broad daylight in a London garden

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    Has anyone produced a shred of evidence that Fat Nick's motivation for his attack on Mrs Silva was in any way motivated by religion?

    The manner of the attack, itself.

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    Re: Woman beheaded in broad daylight in a London garden

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    I know of no "lefty" that uses that example to excuse the caliphate. They use it to point out, yet again, the hypocracy of the Right. I know it is kinda nuanced...
    Don't blame me for your own inattention.
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