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    Re: Woman beheaded in broad daylight in a London garden

    Quote Originally Posted by HonestJoe View Post
    If British Muslims and Muslim organisations were speaking out against terrorism, how would you hear about it? Would you listen?

    Maybe you should talk to some and find out. Maybe you shouldn't be condemning them if you don't even have that basic understanding.
    What the hell kind of a response is that? I'm not hearing anything from moderates, nothing, chirp chirp.. What is a moderate, do you know? What separates a moderate from a radical? Aren't there supposed to be way more moderates than radicals? What are they afraid of? I can tell you this, if there was a sect of Jews doing the same kinds of things there would be a blisteringly loud condemnation from the Jewish precincts, but strangely, nothing from the Muslim precincts.

    Odd, eh?

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    Re: Woman beheaded in broad daylight in a London garden

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon Feltser View Post
    Well, it`s terrible. And we don`t know wether it was the attack terror-related or not. And another point in this: "officers used a taser to apprehend the suspect". I note that this is a dangerous criminal, rather than a simple thief. Why do our policemen shoot-to-kill in any situation?
    Have you seen the crime rate in London?
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    Re: Woman beheaded in broad daylight in a London garden

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    Is there any evidence there was an extremist connection with this crime? Just because it is a decapitation doesnt mean a Moslem is involved.
    I think the old lady's head in the rose bush is clue.
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    Re: Woman beheaded in broad daylight in a London garden

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    He is described as a recent Muslim convert.

    I had to look through quite a few British news sites until I found it mentioned as most routinely scrub that sort of relevant information from their reporting due to what they call "community sensitivities".

    What the hell is being taught in British Mosques, anyway? In an age when London is a worldwide terrorist epicenter and those beheading journalists speak with a British accent, I would think a few more Brits might want to stand up and take notice.
    You think, maybe, that with the lax immigration policies and lack of secure borders, the UK has let too many violent Muslim extremists in?
    Those preaching this hate in the Mosques for example?

    So glad that the US has their borders secure and under control. Oh wait.
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    Re: Woman beheaded in broad daylight in a London garden

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    England has a huge problem and growing divisions among native Brits, and the ever increasing Muslim populations. That place is going to erupt before we in the USA do, but believe me when I tell you, innocent or not, Muslims are going to get a wake up call from all those European nations that opened their doors to them. It'll happen here too eventually. The silence of the Muslim moderates is deafening on terrorism in almost all nations that have them as residents. I'm of the opinion that MOST Muslims, if given the numbers, would all jump in full steam ahead on the jihad. Sure there are true moderates, but what is it to be a moderate Muslim these days? What is a moderate Muslim? I know what a conservative/reform Jew is, but Muslim, I have no idea what constitutes one?


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    Yeah, that's for sure. I'm thinking they've let in far too many extremists. Need to send them back to where they can do no (additional) harm, say send them to ISIS.
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    Re: Woman beheaded in broad daylight in a London garden

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon Feltser View Post
    A 25-year-old man was arrested in connection with the death of a woman who was reportedly beheaded in the back garden of a North London home on Thursday afternoon. Officers used a Taser to apprehend the suspect, who is being treated at a hospital for injuries, according to Huffington Post UK. One officer also suffered a broken wrist, police said in a statement.
    Woman reportedly beheaded in broad daylight in a London garden - The Washington Post

    Well, it`s terrible. And we don`t know wether it was the attack terror-related or not. And another point in this: "officers used a taser to apprehend the suspect". I note that this is a dangerous criminal, rather than a simple thief. Why do our policemen shoot-to-kill in any situation?


    As a journalist I have come to be suspicious of the words "alleged" and "reportedly" especially when dealing with the infamous British press and certainly the Washington Post.

    Before we convict this guy of terrorism, as the terrorist obsessive David Cameron seems to want to do, we need to examine the rather categorical statement of the police
    “This is a highly visible attack in broad daylight on a residential street. I can understand why this may cause people concern, however we are confident that we are not looking for anyone else at this stage,” Sandlin said in a statement. “Whilst it is too early to speculate on what the motive behind this attack was, I am confident, based on the information currently available to me, that it is not terrorist-related.”
    "Not terrorist related".......there is no sort of there.


    There is no doubt whatsoever the Commonwealth immigrations policies have been a burden in Britain, and at times here in Canada where extremists try to export their war [the Sikh separation movement in Canada that led to planes blowing up]. However, this is documented by the police as an isolated incident and not terrorist related. David Cameron stoops to a new low to make this into a possible terrorist threat, fostering fear in the land based on an incident already dismissed as terrorist. It a mild form of Bush insisting he had to invade Iraq, when there was mounting evidence there were no WMD's
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    Re: Woman beheaded in broad daylight in a London garden

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Sometimes the facts have a way of becoming anti Muslim. 'Nigerian Muslim Convert' Held by Police After North London Beheading
    The facts are not becoming anti Muslim. As far as I'm concerned, there are no facts as to any Muslim aspect of this story at this time. Why would you give any credence to unconfirmed allegations of what amounts to neighborhood gossip? Going by another unconfirmed piece of neighborhood gossip in your own link, if he truly is a recently converted Muslim, why would he walk around giving the finger to other Muslims?
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    Re: Woman beheaded in broad daylight in a London garden

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    My apologies if I misrepresented you. So you agree that there is no evidence that religion was responsible for this crime?
    You deal in dishonest false dichotomies.

    Is it really beyond your ability to comprehend something so basic as the idea that a person acting alone can be influenced by religion without the necessity that a "conspiracy" is involved? Seems an easy enough concept to grasp.

    Most people would see the modus operandi being so much in line with various Islamic teachings as to get a clue. If you prefer to stick your fingers in your ears and yell "nyah nyah nyah", though, be my guest.
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    Re: Woman beheaded in broad daylight in a London garden

    Since gun laws are so strict in England I would carry a sword for protection.

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    Re: Woman beheaded in broad daylight in a London garden

    Why is it the conservatives want to lable everything terrorism? Is it simply Muslim hate?
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