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    Re: Woman beheaded in broad daylight in a London garden

    Quote Originally Posted by Arcana XV View Post
    Well, in this specific case no link has been established between his religion and his actions, the police have gone out of their way to state that there is no terrorist link whatsoever and still most of the British press, except the BBC, were quick to use the word Muslim anyway. Muslim and beheading in the same headline sell lots and lots of papers.
    There never seems to be a definite link between all these beheadings and Muslims. That they are usually called a variation of 'Mohammed' doesn't seem to suggest a correlation either. It's just a lot of random crazy people following a wacky trend who are, otherwise, quite ordinary people.

    Of course there are others, quite apart from the British police, who say beheading an elderly woman is terrorism, whether there is a 'terrorist link' or not. What link is required before the police will call it 'terrorism'? Aren't the neighbors response to this horrible act sufficient evidence enough?

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    Re: Woman beheaded in broad daylight in a London garden

    Quote Originally Posted by Kurmugeon View Post
    It is not presented as "Evidence".
    So you don't actually have a claim, you're just rambling on about hearsay?

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    Re: Woman beheaded in broad daylight in a London garden

    Muslim guy gets into a drug dispute with another guy and shoots him -- making it a Muslim issue is bogus.

    Muslim guy robs a store and shoots the clerk, making it a Muslim issue is bogus.

    Muslim guy BEHEADS an old woman -- bringing in the Muslim issue is entirely relevant.

    Seems pretty obvious to me what would actually be sensationalist and what is not.
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    Re: Woman beheaded in broad daylight in a London garden

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    What link is required before the police will call it 'terrorism'??
    Probably a lot more than it took to consider 1400 underage girls anything but sluts.
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    Re: Woman beheaded in broad daylight in a London garden

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    So you don't actually have a claim, you're just rambling on about hearsay?
    I am trying to put an accurate international perspective on the news report in the OP.

    If you feel it necessary to research the veracity of what I am stating, feel free to do so...

    If you find direct evidence that what I am stating is not accurate, please let me know.

    I would be surprised, my British friend is a down-to-earth, honest, level headed fellow.

    Understand that the British People's attitude and laws surround the press on stories which have an International/Diplomatic context is MUCH different than the Freedom of the Press given to American MSM, before the American Restrictions and Government Intimidation of Obama Era.

    To the British people, during their time as a World Wide Colonial Empire with the majority of their nation's wealth coming from being the Merchant Marine Haulers of International Cargos, in that time, the wrong few words to an explosive diplomatic issue, could result is a Nation Threatening loss of Maritime Income.

    The Brits, due to their Colonial Past, partly due to America's Rebellion and Secession, have a very different view on Freedom of the Press in certain, select areas.

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    Re: Woman beheaded in broad daylight in a London garden

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    There never seems to be a definite link between all these beheadings and Muslims. That they are usually called a variation of 'Mohammed' doesn't seem to suggest a correlation either. It's just a lot of random crazy people following a wacky trend who are, otherwise, quite ordinary people.

    Of course there are others, quite apart from the British police, who say beheading an elderly woman is terrorism, whether there is a 'terrorist link' or not. What link is required before the police will call it 'terrorism'? Aren't the neighbors response to this horrible act sufficient evidence enough?
    You need to clarify what you mean by "all these beheadings". Are you talking about the recent beheadings by ISIS? That is international terrorism. Only a fool would deny that. They were cold-blooded acts, carried out specifically to instill fear and threaten the West in general and the United States in particular.

    As for the poor old woman in London, if you want to include that under the terrorism umbrella, you're free to do so. Until more information comes to light, the man is a frootloop in my eyes.
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    Re: Woman beheaded in broad daylight in a London garden

    Quote Originally Posted by Kurmugeon View Post
    If there wasn't sufficient evidence to a link, the press involved could loose their licenses, or so I am told by my British friend who I am texting with on the subject.

    Evidently, they take that sort of violation of the press restrictions as a sort of violation of Diplomatic Immunity and International Provocation of violence, and violations can include jail time.

    P.S. And be considered an Act of Treason.

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    To be fair they're not calling it a terror attack, they're just emphasizing the perp's religion in the headlines, so your friend may be right.
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    Re: Woman beheaded in broad daylight in a London garden

    Quote Originally Posted by Kurmugeon View Post
    I am trying to put an accurate international perspective on the news report in the OP.
    No you're not. You're babbling BS hearsay in attempt to paint a false picture. You made a claim, someone crushed it and now you run to ~"but my friend said". Do not expect anyone to respect that.

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    Re: Woman beheaded in broad daylight in a London garden

    Quote Originally Posted by Kurmugeon View Post
    I am trying to put an accurate international perspective on the news report in the OP.

    If you feel it necessary to research the veracity of what I am stating, feel free to do so...

    If you find direct evidence that what I am stating is not accurate, please let me know.

    I would be surprised, my British friend is a down-to-earth, honest, level headed fellow.

    Understand that the British People's attitude and laws surround the press on stories which have an International/Diplomatic context is MUCH different than the Freedom of the Press given to American MSM, before the American Restrictions and Government Intimidation of Obama Era.

    To the British people, during their time as a World Wide Colonial Empire with the majority of their nation's wealth coming from being the Merchant Marine Haulers of International Cargos, in that time, the wrong few words to an explosive diplomatic issue, could result is a Nation Threatening loss of Maritime Income.

    The Brits, due to their Colonial Past, partly due to America's Rebellion and Secession, have a very different view on Freedom of the Press in certain, select areas.

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    Most of my Brit friends are now living in Australia and New Zealand but their response is one of outrage and embarrassment also.

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    Re: Woman beheaded in broad daylight in a London garden

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Most of my Brit friends are now living in Australia and New Zealand but their response is one of outrage and embarrassment also.
    Even if the guy proves to be nothing but a madman, the act was outrageous and embarrassing.

    If nothing else, the British are well known for their sense of decorum and reserve, this sort of thing is shocking and quite embarrassing to them as a people. My heart goes out to them.

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