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Woman beheaded in broad daylight in a London garden[W:335:480]

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Jerry said:
Your DNA doesn't change when you marry. Your spouse is not your ancestor. Her married name would matter if we were talking about her children, but we're not, and so it doesn't.


Thus you regard all Chinese, Korans and Japanese as 'white'.


She's Hispanic, not White, but if you want to blindly believe the report anyway then you should believe all of it, including this:

Would you like to recant your rant about terrorism or your rant about ethnicity, you can't have it both ways without committing a logical fallacy.
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Jerry, It is possible to read reports critically. A black, drug dealing thug cuts the heads off a couple of cats and an old woman with a knife. The black thug is also a convert to Islam. Why would Scotland Yard confidently say it is not terrorism?

It seems to me that someone in Scotland Yard is drinking on the job. How can they possibly know after a day or two?
 
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Jerry said:
Apparently.
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I've come to expect it. Happens all the time.
 
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Misterveritis said:
Italians are now Hispanic?
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Italians always have been.

Misterveritis said:
Is this true of everyone who lives near the mediterranean sea? Are the Lebanese Hispanic? The Greeks? The French? Moroccans? Algerians? Tunisians? Libyans? Egyptians? Albanians? The Turks? ...
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Where you live does not determine your ethnicity.

And you're listing nationalities, not ethnicities.

"Hispanic" denotes a relationship to Spain or Roman Hispania, which roughly comprised the Iberian Peninsula including the contemporary states of Andorra, Portugal, and Spain and the Crown Colony or British Overseas Territories of Gibraltar.
 
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Jerry said:
She is Hispanic. The media just misidentified her, and considering how wrong the media has been in reporting basic facts I think this misidentification is a minor one.
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She is not Hispanic. She is not of Spainish, Portugese, or south/central/Latin American heritage. Again- most Italians self-identify as white. Many of them are pale skinned with light hair. Just because she has dark hair and olive skin doesn't mean she is Hispanic.
Now, pretend she is blue-eyed and blonde-haired. Does it really make any difference what her skin color or ethnic background is, when she got freaking beheaded?
 
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Misterveritis said:
Jerry, It is possible to read reports critically. A black, drug dealing thug cuts the heads off a couple of cats and an old woman with a knife. The black thug is also a convert to Islam. Why would Scotland Yard confidently say it is not terrorism?
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In the same way Jeffery Dahmer wasn't reigniting the crusades. He was Christian, you know, most cereal killers are.

A terrorist is something specific. You will note that when real terrorists behead someone they are doing it in front of a camera and/or a large audience. Real terrorists aren't going out solo attacking whatever gets in their way. They're methodical and they kill for propaganda. This article didn't mention any video, a manifesto or anything. This guy was just a nut, the poster child for why Scotland needs to lift it's draconian ban on privately owned handguns.
 
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lizzie said:
Does it really make any difference what her skin color or ethnic background is, when she got freaking beheaded?
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Of course not, you guys were already talking about her ethnicity when I got out of bed this evening and checked the "what's new" page of DebatePolitics.com. My first thought about this story and my first post in this thread had nothing to do with anyone's ethnicity. After making it I read the page I was on and jumped into the present conversation. It's what we do on this forum. I don't know why ethnicity is important to you but threads always drift from the topic a bit and this sort of thing is to be expected, so I jumped in. Vesper said she looked white, and gave a picture. Based on that picture she clearly is not white. Not even close.
 
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Jerry said:
Italians always have been.
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I do not believe that. What makes you believe it?

Where you live does not determine your ethnicity.
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And yet you confidently claim she is Hispanic?

And you're listing nationalities, not ethnicities.
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LOL. I seel Your claim that she was Hispanic seems a bit odd.

"Hispanic" denotes a relationship to Spain or Roman Hispania, which roughly comprised the Iberian Peninsula including the contemporary states of Andorra, Portugal, and Spain and the Crown Colony or British Overseas Territories of Gibraltar.
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Which of those is Italy?
 
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Jerry said:
Of course not, you guys were already talking about her ethnicity when I got out of bed this evening and checked the "what's new" page of DebatePolitics.com. My first thought about this story and my first post in this thread had nothing to do with anyone's ethnicity. After making it I read the page I was on and jumped into the present conversation. It's what we do on this forum. I don't know why ethnicity is important to you but threads always drift from the topic a bit and this sort of thing is to be expected, so I jumped in. Vesper said she looked white, and gave a picture. Based on that picture she clearly is not white. Not even close.
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Well frankly, I don't recall my saying anything at all about her color, until you identified her as Hispanic, when she is not, and if you can find that I did mention her color in any conversation which indicates I think it matters, I'd be interested in seeing it.
 
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"erry, It is possible to read reports critically. A black, drug dealing thug cuts the heads off a couple of cats and an old woman with a knife. The black thug is also a convert to Islam. Why would Scotland Yard confidently say it is not terrorism?"
Jerry said:
In the same way Jeffery Dahmer wasn't reigniting the crusades. He was Christian, you know, most cereal killers are.
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Cereal killers? As in Rice Crispies?

A terrorist is something specific. You will note that when real terrorists behead someone they are doing it in front of a camera and/or a large audience. Real terrorists aren't going out solo attacking whatever gets in their way. They're methodical and they kill for propaganda. This article didn't mention any video, a manifesto or anything. This guy was just a nut, the poster child for why Scotland needs to lift it's draconian ban on privately owned handguns.
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Do you feel safer? Has there been publicity?
 
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lizzie said:
Well frankly, I don't recall my saying anything at all about her color, until you identified her as Hispanic, when she is not, and if you can find that I did mention her color in any conversation which indicates I think it matters, I'd be interested in seeing it.
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If her ethnicity isn't important then it doesn't matter if I call her Hispanic. You wanted to correct me, which means her ethnicity is important to you regardless of the crime.
 
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Misterveritis said:
"erry, It is possible to read reports critically. A black, drug dealing thug cuts the heads off a couple of cats and an old woman with a knife. The black thug is also a convert to Islam. Why would Scotland Yard confidently say it is not terrorism?"

Cereal killers? As in Rice Crispies?
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If you're going to correct someone's grammar, then it's important you not make any grammatical errors yourself, as you just did.

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Do you feel safer?
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Because I carry a gun? Yes, that's why I carry a gun.
 
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Jerry said:
If her ethnicity isn't important then it doesn't matter if I call her Hispanic. You wanted to correct me, which means her ethnicity is important to you regardless of the crime.
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No, I corrected you because you were wrong. It doesn't matter to me that you don't understand the difference, but it might matter to you at some point in your life.
 
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Jerry said:
If you're going to correct someone's grammar, then it's important you not make any grammatical errors yourself, as you just did.
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I was appreciating the humor of cereal killers. I looked for the comic of the rice crispies. I also found that there is a Kickstarter for a movie. But, in order to improve my posts what error did you find? Did I drop a comma? I often do.

Do you feel safer because some alcoholic at Scotland Yard says it was not terrorism?

Because I carry a gun? Yes, that's why I carry a gun.
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But in England they are not so free.
 
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Simon Feltser said:
A 25-year-old man was arrested in connection with the death of a woman who was reportedly beheaded in the back garden of a North London home on Thursday afternoon. Officers used a Taser to apprehend the suspect, who is being treated at a hospital for injuries, according to Huffington Post UK. One officer also suffered a broken wrist, police said in a statement.
Woman reportedly beheaded in broad daylight in a London garden - The Washington Post

Well, it`s terrible. And we don`t know wether it was the attack terror-related or not. And another point in this: "officers used a taser to apprehend the suspect". I note that this is a dangerous criminal, rather than a simple thief. Why do our policemen shoot-to-kill in any situation?
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If they'd had guns, they might have been able to save her life by shooting from a distance instead of having to get close enough to taser him. London police don't carry guns.

And if the woman had had a gun (kept loaded), she and her cats might have had a fighting chance against the lunatic.
 
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Misterveritis said:
I was appreciating the humor of cereal killers. I looked for the comic of the rice crispies.
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I don't understand what about "cereal killers" would make you think of the food instead of the murderer.

Misterveritis said:
But, in order to improve my posts what error did you find? Did I drop a comma? I often do.
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Your post #409, you left the J out of my name when you said:
Misterveritis said:
"erry, It is possible to read reports critically.
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...and "It's" shouldn't be capitalized.

Misterveritis said:
Do you feel safer because some alcoholic at Scotland Yard says it was not terrorism?
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I feel safer because there's an ocean between me and that backwards little country.
 
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lizzie said:
No, I corrected you because you were wrong. It doesn't matter to me that you don't understand the difference, but it might matter to you at some point in your life.
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And I corrected vesper and yourself because you're wrong: she is not white.
 
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Jerry said:
In the same way Jeffery Dahmer wasn't reigniting the crusades. He was Christian, you know, most cereal killers are.
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He was not a Christian when he carried out those killings and you've provided no evidence to support your your claim about "most" serial killers.
A terrorist is something specific. You will note that when real terrorists behead someone they are doing it in front of a camera and/or a large audience. Real terrorists aren't going out solo attacking whatever gets in their way. They're methodical and they kill for propaganda. This article didn't mention any video, a manifesto or anything. This guy was just a nut, the poster child for why Scotland needs to lift it's draconian ban on privately owned handguns.
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It seems you know as little of terrorists as you do about Christians, serial killers and Captain Crunch.
 
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Andalublue said:
She wasn't a white woman.
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Goodness -- a British guy referring to an Italian woman as non-white.

What amount of whiteness does it take to pass your purity test, anyway?
 
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Gardener said:
Goodness -- a British guy referring to an Italian woman as non-white.

What amount of whiteness does it take to pass your purity test, anyway?
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This amount:

Jerry said:
If you think you, your boyfriend or someone you know might be white, take this simple test:

Would the person fit in with this picture?

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If so, they're white, if not, they're not white.

The victim in the OP would not fit in with this picture, we would in fact expect her to be asking us for more Lemon Pledge, not sun screen. Therefore she is not white.

She does, however, fit into this picture:

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She is Hispanic. The media just misidentified her, and considering how wrong the media has been in reporting basic facts I think this misidentification is a minor one.
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Gardener said:
Goodness -- a British guy referring to an Italian woman as non-white.

What amount of whiteness does it take to pass your purity test, anyway?
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Apparently, being caucasian just isn't enough. What matters is how you look, and not what thd dna indicates.
 
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lizzie said:
Apparently, being caucasian just isn't enough. What matters is how you look, and not what thd dna indicates.
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If some of these other posters could only catch a glimpse of my incredible albedo, perhaps they wouldn't be so smug about their own whiteness!
 
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Grant said:
He was not a Christian when he carried out those killings and you've provided no evidence to support your your claim about "most" serial killers.
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Here ya go

Grant said:
It seems you know as little of terrorists as you do about Christians, serial killers and Captain Crunch.
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No one's talking about food.
 
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lizzie said:
Apparently, being caucasian just isn't enough. What matters is how you look, and not what thd dna indicates.
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That's always what really "matters".

All the rest is bull**** used to disguise deeper issues.
 
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JumpinJack said:
And if the woman had had a gun (kept loaded), she and her cats might have had a fighting chance against the lunatic.
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Pic related:

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Gardener said:
He is described as a recent Muslim convert.

I had to look through quite a few British news sites until I found it mentioned as most routinely scrub that sort of relevant information from their reporting due to what they call "community sensitivities".

What the hell is being taught in British Mosques, anyway? In an age when London is a worldwide terrorist epicenter and those beheading journalists speak with a British accent, I would think a few more Brits might want to stand up and take notice.
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How does Islam get so many nutters?
 
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