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Top CIA officer in Benghazi delayed response to terrorist attack [W:222]

Would you send 3 guys to die for no reason?
That's why you don't let liberals watch your back...They'll more than likely let you die.
 
That's why you don't let liberals watch your back...They'll more than likely let you die.
A) I'm not a liberal
B) It doesn't take a genius to understand the difference between regular Army and covert agents.
C) Your blanket accusation of "liberals" shows a level of partisanship which makes it very clear you don't give a rat's rear end about the truth or common sense or logic, you just want to play team politics.
Would you send 3 guys to die for no reason?
He would, so long as he could blame "liberals" for it. After all, that's all some people care about.
 
A) I'm not a liberal
B) It doesn't take a genius to understand the difference between regular Army and covert agents.
C) Your blanket accusation of "liberals" shows a level of partisanship which makes it very clear you don't give a rat's rear end about the truth or common sense or logic, you just want to play team politics.

He would, so long as he could blame "liberals" for it. After all, that's all some people care about.
Aw, quit whining....Your lean is clear, as is your putrid level of posting...Back to DU with you.
 
Aw, quit whining....Your lean is clear, as is your putrid level of posting...Back to DU with you.
My "lean" is towards the truth. It's a shame more people seem to care about playing team politics than they do the truth.
 
My "lean" is towards the truth. It's a shame more people seem to care about playing team politics than they do the truth.

Yeah, yeah, yeah...Blah, blah, blah....Whatever gets you through the day partner....
 
Would you send 3 guys to die for no reason?
Yeah, yeah, yeah...Blah, blah, blah....Whatever gets you through the day partner....
 
Re: Top CIA officer in Benghazi delayed response to terrorist attack US security team

As I noted in my post that you responded to (quoted above), I did not dispute the veracity of Steven's diary entry about security concerns, which -- in case you misunderstood -- means that I did not dispute that there could be a lack of security.

So I'm puzzled why you chose to repeat that lack-of-security point instead of addressing the counterpoint that I also noted in my post about Steven's refusing additional security. What do you think about that refusal? Since the blame game seems to be in play here by the right, wouldn't it seem that he put his own life at risk?



That's Right you didn't.....you just went with whatever was written by Stevens and thinking that explains it all and the Right is just making it seem like Team BO was totally incompetent. That they caused BO peep and his people to screw up, relax security, and then helped to cover it all up. They told Hillary to not check back on her people to see if they got alive too.....huh? They caused her to lose control of her own behavior and actions.....Right?

Because of the RSO and his request that went back to 2011. Which was before Stevens Diary pointed out the when he said he didn't need any extra security. Also note Stevens Diary didn't say anything about Security when the Embassy was in the Hotel. Why is that? What happened......Stevens can always say how much Security he needs and that's what they go with, Right? Did you want to try and fall back on that Counter?

Why is Stevens saying nothing about Security even though they weren't in an Official Facility and were working out of Public Hotel? What happened.....where is the counter? Why is the left can't figure that **** out about the Normal Precautions. Why is it they are still looking for excuses even when it is clear their people ****ed up.

Oh and you thought Stevens didn't request Security. Which was false.



Before death, Amb. Stevens warned of "violent" Libya landscape.....


In the weeks before his death, U.S. Ambassador Chris Stevens sent the State Department several requests for increased security for diplomats in Libya. Steven's memos to the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, which is investigating attacks, show he personally pressed for strengthened security.

On July 9, 2012, Stevens sent a "request for extension of tour of duty (TDY) personnel." That refers to a 16-man military temporary security team with expertise in counter terrorism. They were set to leave in August, but Stevens asked to keep them "thru mid-September." On August 2, six weeks before he died, Stevens requested "protective detail bodyguard potions," saying the added guards "will fill the vacuum of security personnel currently at post who will be leaving with the next month and will not be replaced." He called "the security condition in Libya ... unpredictable, volatile and violent." It's not known what happened to that request.....snip~

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/before-death-amb-stevens-warned-of-violent-libya-landscape/


What happened? Whats going on?.....why is Stevens requesting Security that he thought he didn't need? Just why is Stevens doing so 3 times Right before the Attack? Why isn't the Left able to debunk what Stevens did that is documented?

What.....the left just can't make **** up on the fly as they go? Like they usually do.
 
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How many bad guys were there? (Fox news info is fine here)

I had no idea that Marines motto called for leaving people behind if they were outnumbered....Hmmmmmm.
 
Can you rationally answer a question?
I had no idea that Marines motto called for leaving people behind if they were outnumbered....Hmmmmmm.
 
Can you rationally answer a question?

Maybe when you stop with the foolishness, and warrant something more than shocked mockery....I mean really, you think that the Marines care by how much they are out numbered by? What kind of Marine were you?
 
j-mac, I dont know what rank you were, but I hope you would not send 3 soldiers lightly armed with 9mm handguns to face off with 50-70 trained AQ for no good reason except to die too cause it sounds good in John Wayne movies.
Maybe when you stop with the foolishness, and warrant something more than shocked mockery....I mean really, you think that the Marines care by how much they are out numbered by? What kind of Marine were you?
 
Would you send 3 guys to die for no reason?

If 3 guys jad the balls and the will to risk theor lives to save their comrades, would you let them?
 
Re: Top CIA officer in Benghazi delayed response to terrorist attack US security team

It would have just been 3 more dead guys. The RW is really shameful, using the deaths of Americans for political gain, and trying to bash Obama becaue there werent mroe deaths. What are we 2 years out? and still no evidence of wrongdoing.

The LW should not only be ashamed. They should be looking to never hold any positions of power again. This isn't 3 strikes and your out. Which your Beloved Left.....****ed up twice over the same issue with an Embassy and its Security. In Which after the first time they Promised.....it would never happened again. They took measures. :roll:

Never having adequate security from the Beginning.....is part of that wrong doing that you always blind yourself from seeing. Even though the Majority of others already know this.
 
dang brain fart
 
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Not unless it could accomplish something. Would you let your guys die for no reason. This wasnt a John Wayne movie. These guys were a few of the very few armed assets you had in the region. Think man. I cant remember which forum I was on wehn I was talking abou this but saturday night a guy I know who is very Fox right wing type and I and another guy were discussing this. HE was an infantry officer and a chopper piolt later in VN. he did several tours. I asked him if he had a few guys at an outpost surrounded by 50-70 bad guys with all sorts of small arms up to rocket launchers etc and his only assets were 3 guys with small arms, would he send them? He immediately said no. You guys are acting like this was a movie or something. It wasnt.
If 3 guys jad the balls and the will to risk theor lives to save their comrades, would you let them?
 
Not unless it could accomplish something. Would you let your guys die for no reason. This wasnt a John Wayne movie. These guys were a few of the very few armed assets you had in the region. Think man. I cant remember which forum I was on wehn I was talking abou this but saturday night a guy I know who is very Fox right wing type and I and another guy were discussing this. HE was an infantry officer and a chopper piolt later in VN. he did several tours. I asked him if he had a few guys at an outpost surrounded by 50-70 bad guys with all sorts of small arms up to rocket launchers etc and his only assets were 3 guys with small arms, would he send them? He immediately said no. You guys are acting like this was a movie or something. It wasnt.
The sad part is if those guys HAD gone in, then these same posters would be criticizing Obama for their deaths.

Partisanship can be disgusting.
 
The sad part is they would be dead too, but the even sadder part is the RWers would shamlessly exploiting their death too. Somebody on this forum I think once told me partisanship makes one stupid. He was certainly right about that.
The sad part is if those guys HAD gone in, then these same posters would be criticizing Obama for their deaths.

Partisanship can be disgusting.
 
Re: Top CIA officer in Benghazi delayed response to terrorist attack US security team

Yes, she absolutely said that, and to that Issa immediately said he didn't believe that for a moment...



I also believe that was a bit of CYA on her part....For instance why no increased security? Was it lack of funding? We already know that from her own lips she said 'No Sir', well, then was it a spontaneous attack? We also know the answer to that is no. In fact we know that after previous attacks on other embassy's and consulates in the area that Stevens begged for more security and was turned down by State because they wanted to optics to show "normalized relations".... It was a dumb plan, and it got people killed. Period.




Could just be the fact that Lamb was a complete incompetent moron....and never knew what it was like to be on the Ground. So much for her beliefs.....huh?

Can we take her out to the firing squad or just hang her from the neck until she flops no more like her role in life. The Puppet on a String.



Wood, a former Green Beret, told ABC News that he and other members of the Security Support Team wanted to remain in Libya past their deployment was scheduled to end in August, and that Ambassador Stevens wanted them to remain as well. Nordstrom has said that Lamb told him not to request for the Security Support Team to be extended again. (Its deployment had been previously extended in February 2012.)

I do recall one conversation with her where she (Lamb) said that since we now had a residential safe haven in Benghazi that she didn’t seem to have a problem with having no agents on the compound because if something happened then personnel could simply go to that residential safe haven,” Nordstrom told investigators.....snip~


U.S. Security Official in Libya Tells Congressional Investigators About ‘Inappropriately Low’ Security at Benghazi Post - ABC News
 
Not unless it could accomplish something. Would you let your guys die for no reason. This wasnt a John Wayne movie. These guys were a few of the very few armed assets you had in the region. Think man. I cant remember which forum I was on wehn I was talking abou this but saturday night a guy I know who is very Fox right wing type and I and another guy were discussing this. HE was an infantry officer and a chopper piolt later in VN. he did several tours. I asked him if he had a few guys at an outpost surrounded by 50-70 bad guys with all sorts of small arms up to rocket launchers etc and his only assets were 3 guys with small arms, would he send them? He immediately said no. You guys are acting like this was a movie or something. It wasnt.

I wouldn't sit back and do nothing. If they wanyed to go, I would go with them.
 
I agree, if I had to give that order I would like to think I would go with them, cause I would not want to be alive after giving an order like that.
I wouldn't sit back and do nothing. If they wanyed to go, I would go with them.
 
Would you send 3 guys to die for no reason?

Aaaand, your argument falls apart. The CIA security team that went to the Consulate from the Annex were credited with rescuing 30+ Consulate staff. It was this response from the annex that so many Obama supporters use as evidence that there was a response to the attack. They didn't go for nothing, they just went without orders.
 
I wouldn't sit back and do nothing. If they wanyed to go, I would go with them.

then it's a very good thing that you were not in command
 
Re: Top CIA officer in Benghazi delayed response to terrorist attack US security team

You talking about the movie causing the riot? There were riots in other areas of the regions reportedly casused by that. Why is that so important? Lying is always wrong, not just when Obama does it.



See the thing is when Team BO Officially acknowledges that despite earlier explanations.....that really they are in fact admitting they wrong and or they lied. Bottomline.....see that part about Officially acknowledging says it all. Next!!!!!



On Tuesday afternoon, State Department officials acknowledged that despite earlier explanations from the Obama administration, there was no protest outside the Benghazi compound at all. Only an hour before gunmen methodically and deliberately stormed the post, the streets were empty and everything seemed calm. Obama administration officials originally claimed the trouble began with demonstrations against an anti-Muslim video, a protest that, U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations Susan Rice told ABC News’ THIS WEEK on the Sunday after the attack, “seems to have been hijacked, let us say, by some individual clusters of extremists.”.....snip~

U.S. Security Official in Libya Tells Congressional Investigators About ‘Inappropriately Low’ Security at Benghazi Post - ABC News
 
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