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    re: Top CIA officer in Benghazi delayed response to terrorist attack [W:222]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    The whole story linking the attack to a video was a lie from the start. I don't thnk anybody honestly doubts this. But I don't really think the scandal runs any deeper than that. This administration is incompetent not corrupt.
    Its all politics. If the admin was intentionally trying to mislead the voters, they need to know that. That goes for any party and any incident. Democrats have been saying there was no stand down order. They are either wrong or being intentionally dishonest, which will affect how people vote. Do you want dishonest people representing you or honest people (by which I dont mean Republicans).

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    re: Top CIA officer in Benghazi delayed response to terrorist attack [W:222]

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    Valid questions. WHy dont we have answers?
    Why does it matter? We know what happened and we know why. Is it really necessary to find out if "Bob" said "hold up just a second while I get more information" or if he said "stand down" when we know the intent was the same? Are we really wasting time about specific words?
    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    Democrats have been saying there was no stand down order.
    When you say "Democrats" what you really mean is "multiple Congressional investigations led by Republicans". Right?


    By the way, do you really not understand the difference between the White House giving a stand down order (which was the initial charge and the one Republicans were trying to turn into a scandal) and a leader on the ground telling his guys to wait a second to find out more information?

    Desperation...

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    Re: Top CIA officer in Benghazi delayed response to terrorist attack US security team

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    With the amount of propaganda you like to spew you'd think you'd at least have the courtesy to read what other people post.

    What this story is asserting: That the security team at the CIA Annex, which was a few miles away, were told to "stand down" by the lead individual at the annex when they were requesting to aid the embassy. Eventually they disobeyed the order 30 minutes after the initial order to stand down was placed.

    What the politifact article is asserting: That a 4 person in Tripoli, an hour flight away, and were told to "stand down" because the individuals in Benghazi were already dead when the decision whether or not to send the team was made.

    These are two entirely different issues.
    Very true, and both seem to be disproven. There delay in both cases, contrary to admin claims.

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    Re: Top CIA officer in Benghazi delayed response to terrorist attack US security team

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    No, she was playing a little game, and taking a chance. She was trying to whitewash the entire hearing away by making that statement. It was a bit of political showmanship, and it backfired on her.

    She was hoping to look like the bigger, caring person (Yeah, Hillary cares, LOL) and try to make the republicans look like the ones doing wrong. "Oh, please, just let them rest in peace. Why must we dwell on this terrible attack anymore, you bad people?" That's what she was trying to present. Didn't quite work out that way, she came off more as Cruella de Vil than a Florence Nightingale.
    Clearly you never actually watched that conversation. Do so, then try to talk about it.
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    Re: Top CIA officer in Benghazi delayed response to terrorist attack US security team

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    I'll add to the above by saying the OP article does NOT say there was an official stand-down order given from officials at the White House, the State Department, CIA HQ or DoD. From the article, that order came directly from "Bob", their on-scene commander/supervisor. When asked where the alleged "stand-down order" came from, Paronto, one of the CIA operatives questioned, answered by saying, “It happened on the ground-- all I can talk about is what happened on that ground that night."

    So, what you have here is the 3 CIA operatives asked to engage the enemy but NO RESPONSE was ever given from U.S. officials state-side. As such, they acted on their own WITHOUT ANY OFFICIAL ORDERS FROM CIA HQ or anyone else way or another except from their immediate superior on the ground.
    (Note: Original post was edited as indicated in bold after being quoted by Apacherat (See his post #11))

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    Today Fox News just showed a teaser for what will be aired tomorrow night (Friday 10: PM eastern time)

    So far the two CIA security ops say they were ordered to stand down after the top CIA officer got off the phone speaking to ???

    Both of these CIA individuals said if they weren't ordered to stand down that they believe all four Americans who were killed that night would still be alive today.

    And that it had nothing to do with a video on You Tube.
    So, again, as I stated in my edited post, there was no official stand-down order given from officials at the White House, the State Department, CIA HQ or DoD. The only person who prevented the 3 CIA operatives from engaging the enemy was their immediate supervisor on-site on the ground calling the shots as he saw them unfolding on the scene. To suggest that his order was an "official" directive given as if it were directly from the CIA, State Department, DoD or the White House is very disingenuous.
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    Re: Top CIA officer in Benghazi delayed response to terrorist attack US security team

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Clearly you never actually watched that conversation. Do so, then try to talk about it.
    Oh no, I saw her, after they finally got her to come in. Nice of her, wasn't it? People died, but she was in no hurry to come in and give some answers. Then she tried to turn the tables, and made a jerk of herself. I hope they play this clip everyday if she runs for president, no one should forget what she is about. That's my opinion, if you don't like it, that's tough.
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    Re: Top CIA officer in Benghazi delayed response to terrorist attack US security team

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    (Note: Original post was edited as indicated in bold after being quoted by Apacherat (See his post #11))



    So, again, as I stated in my edited post, there was no official stand-down order given from officials at the White House, the State Department, CIA HQ or DoD. The only person who prevented the 3 CIA operatives from engaging the enemy was their immediate supervisor on-site on the ground calling the shots as he saw them unfolding on the scene. To suggest that his order was an "official" directive given as if it were directly from the CIA, State Department, DoD or the White House is very disingenuous.
    thank you for this post

    MMC, read it ... and then re-visit our discussion
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    re: Top CIA officer in Benghazi delayed response to terrorist attack [W:222]

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    So, I guess there was a stand down order. Did congress talk to these guys? Was the order justified? This new evidence appears to contradict the left wing talking points.
    OK that's it!

    This is "old news", "there is nothing there", "the president learned about it on TV", "this will all blow away", "it was a spontaneous demonstration".....don't you get the picture?

    An ambassador in the service to the country he loved was assassinated by terrorists for the first time in 30 years. So what? The president has an FBI investigation under way, and as soon as they find Libya, these "criminals" will see the long arm of US justice Obama style.

    So please, enough of the tired old talking points. The president has a lot on his mind. A for profit private sector journalist has been beheaded in Iraq and that needs all his attention right now, he has to plan a raid/invasion as soon as he figures out a plan. But know this, "terrorists" will feel the enormity of American might over this beheading. So catching the spontaneous demonstrators in Libya is going to have to take a back seat to the constant extreme right agenda to thwart the president.

    Now back to reality, damn I hate these acid flash backs.
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    re: Top CIA officer in Benghazi delayed response to terrorist attack [W:222]

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    You didn't think there was just 3 CIA operatives on duty at the time.....now did ya OV? Did you forget BO's own statements about the Chatter?
    You'll have to refresh my memory on that. (Re: Chatter). Regardless, 3 or 4 CIA operatives on the ground as indicated in the FoxNews piece and one on-scene high ranking official who made an on-scene judgment call not to engage the enemy does not constitute an official directive coming from CIA HQ, the State Department, DoD nor the White House to stand-down. That's all I'm trying to get across to you folks.

    I'd imagine that the on-scene supervisor is no different than a squad leader or platoon commander calling the shoots during combat prior to calling HQ for an air strike. I see no difference here. Nonetheless, I can agree there was a stand-down order given. However, it didn't come from the top brass which is what Rep. Issa and Co. (Republicans) have been clamoring for as the smoking gun of ineptitude from the Obama Administration since 9/11/12.
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    Re: Top CIA officer in Benghazi delayed response to terrorist attack US security team

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    thank you for this post

    MMC, read it ... and then re-visit our discussion

    You need to re-read it and then re-read what I had up. Again.....when did this knowledge come out before? When did any have an idea about any CIA on the ground talking to anyone? Answer.....None. Otherwise the left would have been harpin about it for days and trying to play off that. Would have shown up in all our Benghazi threads.

    Can you explain why it never did?

    Oh and you didn't forget that bit about Ansar al Sharia on purpose again, did you?.....since most didn't know that the State Dept hired them as security for Benghazi. Or did you want to say they did?

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