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    Re: Top CIA officer in Benghazi delayed response to terrorist attack [W:222]

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    That's true, Nixon was never impeached, Clinton was impeached.

    Impeachment is nothing more than an indictment comparable to a county or federal grand jury indictment.
    Nothing more than a formal accusation that a person has committed a crime. Guilt or innocence isn't determined during a grand jury hearing or during impeachment.
    Impeachment doesn't remove a president from office. But resigning sure does. lol

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    Re: Top CIA officer in Benghazi delayed response to terrorist attack US security team

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    [...] "One person familiar with the events said Stevens might have rejected the offers because there was an understanding within the State Department that officials in Libya ought not to request more security, in part because of concerns about the political fallout of seeking a larger military presence in a country that was still being touted as a foreign policy success. [...]

    So the political pressure from State was for Stevens to NOT request more security [...]
    So, I take it your conclusion from this report is that Sevens risked his own life -- which was mostly my repeatedly-ignored point quite some posts ago -- speculatively as a result of political pressure. Actually he risked not only his own life, but that of everyone in the facility.

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    Re: Top CIA officer in Benghazi delayed response to terrorist attack US security team

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    Ambassador Stevens twice said no to military offers of more security, U.S. officials say

    Army Gen. Carter Ham, then the head of the U.S. Africa Command, did not wait for the separate cable, however. Instead, after reading the Aug. 16 cable, Ham phoned Stevens and asked if the embassy needed a special security team from the U.S. military. Stevens told Ham it did not, the officials said.

    Weeks later, Stevens traveled to Germany for an already scheduled meeting with Ham at AFRICOM headquarters. During that meeting, Ham again offered additional military assets, and Stevens again said no, the two officials said.

    “He didn’t say why. He just turned it down,” a defense official who asked not to be identified because of the sensitivity of the subject told McClatchy.

    Read more here: CAIRO: Ambassador Stevens twice said no to military offers of more security, U.S. officials say | Middle East | McClatchy DC


    I bolded it so you'd be sure not to miss it.

    It was a guy named Nordstrom that made the requests for extra security, not Stevens. Stevens was trying to get the locals engaged in providing the security. Why? Because using military security is more expensive and the cost would have had to come out of the state departments budget. It is rare that the State Department uses the military for security.

    Before death, Amb. Stevens warned of "violent" Libya landscape


    In the weeks before his death, U.S. Ambassador Chris Stevens sent the State Department several requests for increased security for diplomats in Libya. Steven's memos to the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, which is investigating attacks, show he personally pressed for strengthened security. On July 9, 2012, Stevens sent a "request for extension of tour of duty (TDY) personnel." That refers to a 16-man military temporary security team with expertise in counter terrorism. They were set to leave in August, but Stevens asked to keep them "thru mid-September." On August 2, six weeks before he died, Stevens requested "protective detail bodyguard positions," saying the added guards "will fill the vacuum of security personnel currently at post who will be leaving with the next month and will not be replaced." He called "the security condition in Libya ... unpredictable, volatile and violent." It's not known what happened to that request

    On August 8, as the special security teams left Libya, another cable from Stevens says "a series of violent incidents has dominated the political landscape" and calls them "targeted and discriminate attacks.".....snip~

    Before death, Amb. Stevens warned of "violent" Libya landscape - CBS News

    I bolded it to show.....How CBS News went with the memos that are physical evidence that went before the House and Government Reform Committees. Not just Generals Ham statement. Nor the 2 Government Officials that talked with McClatchy.

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    Re: Top CIA officer in Benghazi delayed response to terrorist attack [W:222]

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Impeachment doesn't remove a president from office. But resigning sure does. lol
    I can't argue that.

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    Re: Top CIA officer in Benghazi delayed response to terrorist attack US security team

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Ambassador Stevens twice said no to military offers of more security, U.S. officials say

    Army Gen. Carter Ham, then the head of the U.S. Africa Command, did not wait for the separate cable, however. Instead, after reading the Aug. 16 cable, Ham phoned Stevens and asked if the embassy needed a special security team from the U.S. military. Stevens told Ham it did not, the officials said.

    Weeks later, Stevens traveled to Germany for an already scheduled meeting with Ham at AFRICOM headquarters. During that meeting, Ham again offered additional military assets, and Stevens again said no, the two officials said.

    “He didn’t say why. He just turned it down,” a defense official who asked not to be identified because of the sensitivity of the subject told McClatchy.

    Read more here: CAIRO: Ambassador Stevens twice said no to military offers of more security, U.S. officials say | Middle East | McClatchy DC


    I bolded it so you'd be sure not to miss it.

    It was a guy named Nordstrom that made the requests for extra security, not Stevens. Stevens was trying to get the locals engaged in providing the security. Why? Because using military security is more expensive and the cost would have had to come out of the state departments budget. It is rare that the State Department uses the military for security.

    I suggest strongly that you actually read the article, and not just the headline that McClatchy want's you to put forth.
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    Re: Top CIA officer in Benghazi delayed response to terrorist attack US security team

    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    So, I take it your conclusion from this report is that Sevens risked his own life -- which was mostly my repeatedly-ignored point quite some posts ago -- speculatively as a result of political pressure. Actually he risked not only his own life, but that of everyone in the facility.
    Yes, that's pretty much the take from the article...
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    Re: Top CIA officer in Benghazi delayed response to terrorist attack US security team

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I suggest strongly that you actually read the article, and not just the headline that McClatchy want's you to put forth.
    Why don't you read it and tell me what it says.

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    Re: Top CIA officer in Benghazi delayed response to terrorist attack [W:222]

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    Nixon was never impeached.
    You are correct. Congress never formally impeached former Pres. Nixon. So allow me to rephrase...

    Nixon was investigated, was threatened to be impeached and most certainly would have been because he...(see post #364).
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    Re: Top CIA officer in Benghazi delayed response to terrorist attack [W:222]

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    You are correct. Congress never formally impeached former Pres. Nixon. So allow me to rephrase...

    Nixon was investigated, was threatened to be impeached and most certainly would have been because he...(see post #364).
    There was a lot of bull **** taking place to bring down Nixon. It was the agenda of the "New Left" to destroy Nixon.

    Wait a sec, Hillary Rodham Clinton is part of the radical "New Left" and played a part on bringing down Nixon.

    Hillary Fired For “Lying, Unethical Behavior” on Watergate Committee...

    >" Hillary Clinton might have a pretty hefty scandal brewing.

    It turns when she was an attorney working on the Watergate investigation, she was fired by her supervisor for “lying, unethical behavior.”

    Jerry Zeifman, who said he is a lifelong Democrat, was a supervisor for 27-year-old Hillary Rodham on the committee. When the investigation was complete, Zeifman said he fired Hillary and refused to give her a recommendation.

    “Because she was a liar,” Zeifman said. “She was an unethical, dishonest lawyer. She conspired to violate the Constitution, the rules of the House, the rules of the committee and the rules of confidentiality...."<

    1974 Diary Surfaces: Hillary Fired For

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    Re: Top CIA officer in Benghazi delayed response to terrorist attack US security team

    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    So, I take it your conclusion from this report is that Sevens risked his own life -- which was mostly my repeatedly-ignored point quite some posts ago -- speculatively as a result of political pressure. Actually he risked not only his own life, but that of everyone in the facility.
    So, you're saying he got what he deserved?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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