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    Re: Top CIA officer in Benghazi delayed response to terrorist attack [W:222]

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
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    then what equipment would those three men have had to have possessed for you to have sent them to confront so many
    your dithering on the aspect of their equipment causes me to believe you are re-thinking your willingness to send three under-armed men against so many well armed opponents

    Heya JB. That would be any equipment they were acquiring from Gadhafi. Or did you want to say that's not what one of things that they were doing?

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    Re: Top CIA officer in Benghazi delayed response to terrorist attack [W:222]

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    Only if they could critize Obama for it. Shameless.
    Does BO Peeps team represent BO peep? Yeah that's what I thought! Does that help clue you in?

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    Re: Top CIA officer in Benghazi delayed response to terrorist attack [W:222]

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
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    then what equipment would those three men have had to have possessed for you to have sent them to confront so many
    your dithering on the aspect of their equipment causes me to believe you are re-thinking your willingness to send three under-armed men against so many well armed opponents
    It wasn't up to me to decide what to send, or how many to send, or what to do....That responsibility laid with Obama, and Hillary...So, should I mark you down as well on the side of doing nothing?
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    Re: Top CIA officer in Benghazi delayed response to terrorist attack [W:222]

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Heya JB. That would be any equipment they were acquiring from Gadhafi. Or did you want to say that's not what one of things that they were doing?
    that's not an issue
    at least not within my post
    if 9mm handguns were inadequate armament with which to send three against many, i wanted to know what armament complement would have been found acceptable to then send the three into combat against the islamic fighters
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
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    Re: Top CIA officer in Benghazi delayed response to terrorist attack US security team

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I believe that Stevens was there to meet the Turk ambassador to finalize a deal to send arms through Turkish ports into Syria....So in the end Obama was making a deal with the ISIS devil and got burned, and now is afraid to engage them....He's a huge pussy.
    Oh, I thought you meant why were we there in the first place. Militarily.

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    Re: Top CIA officer in Benghazi delayed response to terrorist attack [W:222]

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    I believe this thread was about sending 3 CIA guys. 16 to 20 well armed is far different, I see why you are trying to change the subject. Oh yea, and that was July.
    The topic is a criticism of the govts attempts to mislead us on what happened. Someone in govt needs to be held accountable for their handling of the situtation.

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    Re: Top CIA officer in Benghazi delayed response to terrorist attack US security team

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Karl, replying to MMC View Post
    As I noted in my post that you responded to (quoted above), I did not dispute the veracity of Steven's diary entry about security concerns, which -- in case you misunderstood -- means that I did not dispute that there could be a lack of security.

    So I'm puzzled why you chose to repeat that lack-of-security point instead of addressing the counterpoint that I also noted in my post about Steven's refusing additional security. What do you think about that refusal? Since the blame game seems to be in play here by the right, wouldn't it seem that he put his own life at risk?
    That's Right you didn't.....you just went with whatever was written by Stevens and thinking that explains it all and the Right is just making it seem like Team BO was totally incompetent. That they caused BO peep and his people to screw up, relax security, and then helped to cover it all up. They told Hillary to not check back on her people to see if they got alive too.....huh? They caused her to lose control of her own behavior and actions.....Right? Because of the RSO and his request that went back to 2011. Which was before Stevens Diary pointed out the when he said he didn't need any extra security. Also note Stevens Diary didn't say anything about Security when the Embassy was in the Hotel. Why is that? What happened......Stevens can always say how much Security he needs and that's what they go with, Right? Did you want to try and fall back on that Counter? Why is Stevens saying nothing about Security even though they weren't in an Official Facility and were working out of Public Hotel? What happened.....where is the counter? Why is the left can't figure that **** out about the Normal Precautions. Why is it they are still looking for excuses even when it is clear their people ****ed up.

    Oh and you thought Stevens didn't request Security. Which was false.

    Before death, Amb. Stevens warned of "violent" Libya landscape..... In the weeks before his death, U.S. Ambassador Chris Stevens sent the State Department several requests for increased security for diplomats in Libya. Steven's memos to the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, which is investigating attacks, show he personally pressed for strengthened security.

    On July 9, 2012, Stevens sent a "request for extension of tour of duty (TDY) personnel." That refers to a 16-man military temporary security team with expertise in counter terrorism. They were set to leave in August, but Stevens asked to keep them "thru mid-September." On August 2, six weeks before he died, Stevens requested "protective detail bodyguard potions," saying the added guards "will fill the vacuum of security personnel currently at post who will be leaving with the next month and will not be replaced." He called "the security condition in Libya ... unpredictable, volatile and violent." It's not known what happened to that request.....snip~ Before death, Amb. Stevens warned of "violent" Libya landscape - CBS News

    What happened? Whats going on?.....why is Stevens requesting Security that he thought he didn't need? Just why is Stevens doing so 3 times Right before the Attack? Why isn't the Left able to debunk what Stevens did that is documented? What.....the left just can't make **** up on the fly as they go? Like they usually do.
    Why didn't you answer the question?

    I find your post mostly incoherent (not to mention totally off topic in relation to my question), but this one part did stand out:

    Oh and you thought Stevens didn't request Security. Which was false
    First, I didn't think that; second, how do you know what I think, and third, why would you post something that wasn't true?

    But I think we all know that since you've dodged the original question twice now, that no answer will be forthcoming on this one either. In any case, since you are having some success in deflecting away from that original question I'll repost it for all to review:

    Quote Originally Posted by Karl in post #242 View Post
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    CAIRO — In the month before attackers stormed U.S. facilities in Benghazi and killed four Americans, U.S. Ambassador Christopher Stevens twice turned down offers of security assistance made by the senior U.S. military official in the region in response to concerns that Stevens had raised in a still secret memorandum, two government officials told McClatchy.

    Read more here: CAIRO: Ambassador Stevens twice said no to military offers of more security, U.S. officials say | Middle East | McClatchy DC

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    Re: Top CIA officer in Benghazi delayed response to terrorist attack [W:222]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    It wasn't up to me to decide what to send, or how many to send, or what to do....That responsibility laid with Obama, and Hillary...So, should I mark you down as well on the side of doing nothing?
    so, you are now unable to say that it was appropriate to send those three into combat against the islamic fighters
    that you can no longer find basis to criticize that failure to send them into combat
    good on you for being willing to publically change your opinion
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
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    Re: Top CIA officer in Benghazi delayed response to terrorist attack [W:222]

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    that's not an issue
    at least not within my post
    if 9mm handguns were inadequate armament with which to send three against many, i wanted to know what armament complement would have been found acceptable to then send the three into combat against the islamic fighters

    Do you think any AK's they acquired would do the trick? What about anything with a grenade launcher?

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    Re: Top CIA officer in Benghazi delayed response to terrorist attack [W:222]

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    so, you are now unable to say that it was appropriate to send those three into combat against the islamic fighters
    that you can no longer find basis to criticize that failure to send them into combat
    good on you for being willing to publically change your opinion
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