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    Re: Top CIA officer in Benghazi delayed response to terrorist attack US security team

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    You're still ignoring the elephant in the room......four people are dead because there wasn't enough embassy security.....and there wasn't enough security because congress cut funding for embassy security.




    Joe Biden says Paul Ryan cut embassy security by $300 million

    Ultimately, a final bill with slightly higher amounts than the Houseís initial bill -- about $60 million more -- was passed by both chambers and signed by the president. But this approach has problems as well. For starters, Biden glosses over the fact that the president did ultimately sign the bill with the new lower funding amount, meaning he shares some responsibility for the lower level. (All presidential budget requests are opening offers that inevitably become subject to negotiation.)

    The main problem with Bidenís claim, however, is that itís not really what he was referring to in his claim from the debate. Biden said Ryan "cut embassy security in his budget by $300 million below what we asked for," but what passed the House wasnít Ryanís budget blueprint -- it was an actual spending bill that emerged from the House Appropriations Committee.....snip~

    Joe Biden says Paul Ryan cut embassy security by $300 million | PolitiFact

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    Re: Top CIA officer in Benghazi delayed response to terrorist attack [W:222]

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    you accused me of coming to believe in a conspiracy theory
    Wrong again. I accused your post or argument of supporting or sponsoring a conspiracy theory. Do you understand the distinction?
    Hm. Let's see:

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    Be careful; if you guys keep coming up with / repeating these conspiracy theories you might start believing them yourself . . . . .
    Gosh. It almost looks as if you are, in fact, saying pretty much exactly what I said you were saying, and as if your later post is an attempt to move the goalpost since it turned out that I was correct...

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    Re: Top CIA officer in Benghazi delayed response to terrorist attack US security team

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    You are still ignoring the heart of the matter...The question was posed directly to the person that was in charge of security of the embassy and consulate. She was asked if these cuts made any difference in the response, and her answer was "No Sir"....Period....You can throw out any CYA pieces from WH pseudo journalist sycophants you wish, and all the Hillary CYA double speak you can find, but on the simple answer the reply was "No Sir".... How do you square that?
    You're still ignoring the elephant in the room......four people are dead because there wasn't enough embassy security.....and there wasn't enough security because congress cut funding for embassy security.
    So... just to be clear... you think that you know more about the impact of the budget on the security of the consulate in Benghazi... than the person who was actually in charge of security at the consulate in Benghazi... ?
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    Re: Top CIA officer in Benghazi delayed response to terrorist attack US security team

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    You're still ignoring the elephant in the room......four people are dead because there wasn't enough embassy security.....and there wasn't enough security because congress cut funding for embassy security.
    No Moot...That was the excuse floated to see if it made the inquiry go away, but it was quickly put down when as I have now posted at least three times, the person in charge of security at the embassy and consulate was asked if funding, or cuts had anything to do with why security was lax at that time, and her answer was "No sir"....Now I don't know any simpler way of explaining that to you, you are buying into pure spin.
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    Re: Top CIA officer in Benghazi delayed response to terrorist attack US security team

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Are you actually claiming that budget cuts were responsible for these attacks, the resulting deaths, and that funding was not available to protect these people? That is just too desperate.
    Are you claiming that a talking point made after the fact is responsible for the attacks? Talk about desperate.

    Have you heard about the order to stand down? How does that relate to any possible budget cuts?
    Have you even bothered to read the OP or the thread??? It sure doesn't look like it.

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    Re: Top CIA officer in Benghazi delayed response to terrorist attack US security team

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Are you claiming that a talking point made after the fact is responsible for the attacks? Talk about desperate.

    Have you even bothered to read the OP or the thread??? It sure doesn't look like it.
    What are you reading?
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    Re: Top CIA officer in Benghazi delayed response to terrorist attack US security team

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    Joe Biden says Paul Ryan cut embassy security by $300 million

    Ultimately, a final bill with slightly higher amounts than the House’s initial bill -- about $60 million more -- was passed by both chambers and signed by the president. But this approach has problems as well. For starters, Biden glosses over the fact that the president did ultimately sign the bill with the new lower funding amount, meaning he shares some responsibility for the lower level. (All presidential budget requests are opening offers that inevitably become subject to negotiation.)

    The main problem with Biden’s claim, however, is that it’s not really what he was referring to in his claim from the debate. Biden said Ryan "cut embassy security in his budget by $300 million below what we asked for," but what passed the House wasn’t Ryan’s budget blueprint -- it was an actual spending bill that emerged from the House Appropriations Committee.....snip~

    Joe Biden says Paul Ryan cut embassy security by $300 million | PolitiFact
    Ryan is red herring and totally irrelevant. I"ve already posted Hillary's letter to the House Appropriations Committee....read it and weep. lol

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    Re: Top CIA officer in Benghazi delayed response to terrorist attack US security team

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    What are you reading?
    The ARB report, WP, NYT mostly. What are you reading?

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    Re: Top CIA officer in Benghazi delayed response to terrorist attack US security team

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Ryan is red herring and totally irrelevant. I"ve already posted Hillary's letter to the House Appropriations Committee....read it and weep. lol

    What was done thru any Committee did not affect funds for Physical security of the Consulate. Nor did it have anything to do with the Consulate having inadequate security from its beginning after they had moved it from the Hotel. So here is a bit more insight.....and it just doesn't look good for the Lefts deflection over Security Funds.

    Also as Politi-Fact states.....BO signed off on the reductions and bears part of that blame. So don't let that fact be forgotten while trying to blame the Right.



    The security lapses in Benghazi that led to the death of Ambassador Stevens and three other Americans trace back to security decisions made in Washington. That's the message of a letter Rep. Darrell Issa sent to Secretary Clinton Tuesday. The letter indicates that the US mission in Libya made repeated request for increased security prior to the September 11th attack but that these requests were denied. Issa's House Oversight committee is planning a hearing on Wednesday, October 10, to investigate the failure.

    Issa's letter is an effort to gather relevant information on security arrangements in Libya prior to the attack. In particular, Issa is requesting information on security requests from the Libyan Embassy and relevant documents on how those requests were handled. According to the letter, "multiple U.S. federal government officials have confirmed to the Committee that, prior to the September 11th attack, the U.S. mission in Libya made repeated requests for increased security in Benghazi. The mission in Libya, however, was denied these resources by officials in Washington.".....snip~

    Benghazi: Multiple Requests for Increased Security Denied by Washington

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    Re: Top CIA officer in Benghazi delayed response to terrorist attack US security team

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    The ARB report, WP, NYT mostly. What are you reading?
    Then you must only be reading the parts you want to be true, and not the whole thing, since what I posted to you was directly from WP.
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