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    re: Top CIA officer in Benghazi delayed response to terrorist attack [W:222]

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    No, they lied, repeatedly and deliberately to the American people. Hillary looked the families of the fallen in the face and lied to them directly. They lied to us about the source of the attack because they wanted to make the Administration look better than it was.

    Calling this a "talking point" is like calling Bush's claim that Iraq had WMD's "a speech line". Yeah. Can you imagine how insane it would be if this administration were involved in an incompetent attempt to sell weapons to America's enemies? That would be crazy. I mean, that would be almost as crazy as if they illegally broken into others information in order to search for private data. I'm so glad we don't have to worry about that.
    Too bad the Obamists won't read any of that. Facts interfere with their beliefs.

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    re: Top CIA officer in Benghazi delayed response to terrorist attack [W:222]

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Even if Rice had said it was an attack instead of a protest in the first place....it still wouldn't have saved Amb. Stevens. So what difference does it make?
    Those who were actually there say he could have been saved. Does the truth mean less to you than your political party?

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    re: Top CIA officer in Benghazi delayed response to terrorist attack [W:222]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Those who were actually there say he could have been saved. Does the truth mean less to you than your political party?
    What does that have to do with Rice saying it was a protest instead of an attack?

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    re: Top CIA officer in Benghazi delayed response to terrorist attack [W:222]

    Just entering the topic so maybe somebody else has brought it up, but...
    This is in no way new information. I read about this a long time ago. I'd have to say at least around the end of 2012.

    The CIA annex had a 10-man (or so) security team present but it was ordered to stand down and not get involved. I don't know why but my guess would be to protect the secret of the CIA's operation there, hoping that the attack would only hit the diplomatic portions of the complex.

    Doherty and Woods eventually both disobeyed the stand down order and went to help with the evacuation.

    And I've been wondering for a long time why the investigation didn't seem to pay any attention towards that. My guess is because there's no Democrat blood in the water if they go that direction.

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    re: Top CIA officer in Benghazi delayed response to terrorist attack [W:222]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Those who were actually there say he could have been saved. Does the truth mean less to you than your political party?
    Yeah, if he'd stayed with his escort and didn't run off to die from a fire, he might have lived.

    Heck, with the CIA's presence there I'm more than a little suspicious that maybe he went off on his own to make sure information was destroyed or something.

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    Re: Top CIA officer in Benghazi delayed response to terrorist attack US security team

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Chaffetz is the twit that politicized and started all this bs about Benghazi.
    BS????

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    re: Top CIA officer in Benghazi delayed response to terrorist attack [W:222]

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    It's too simple....the right wing are politicizing the deaths of four Americans to hurt Hillary.


    You're the only one I've seen saying they hired Ansar al Sharia. Do you have a link?

    The ARB report said they hired Libyan February 17 Martyrs’ Brigade (February 17) militia members and unarmed, locally contracted Blue Mountain Libya (BML) guards for security......

    "...In the weeks and months leading up to the attacks, the response from post, Embassy Tripoli, and Washington to a deteriorating security situation was inadequate. At the same time, the SMC’s dependence on the armed but poorly skilled Libyan February 17 Martyrs’ Brigade (February 17) militia members and unarmed, locally contracted Blue Mountain Libya (BML) guards for security support was misplaced.
    Although the February 17 militia had proven effective in responding to improvised explosive device (IED) attacks on the Special Mission in April and June 2012, there were some troubling indicators of its reliability in the months and weeks preceding the September attacks. At the time of Ambassador Stevens’ visit, February 17 militia members had stopped accompanying Special Mission vehicle movements in protest over salary and working hours.
    http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/202446.pdf


    Ahh, so conservatives are just trying to make the facts fit their assumptions. Got it. Geezus, is there anything you aren't blaming Hillary for?

    The British didn't have an embassy in Benghazi either but they were allowed to park their cars at the compound. Period? The right wing was screaming for Obama to arm the Syrian rebels against Assad so I really don't see the problem with transferring arms from Libya to Syria. They were probably originally from the US anyway. <shrug>
    Actually it was the left that politicized the deaths and from BO's election.....also when Hillary told the one guy's father they were going after the guy who made the video.

    Now how does the Conservatives come into the play, when it was the Syrian Rebels who Admitted to getting the Weapons from Libya? That would be the MB backed rebels of the Syrian National Council that Team BO was sending Aid to. You didn't think there was anyway around that fact that's known by most in the ME and around the Planet, did ya?

    Oh and that's Right.....the Turks didn't have an Embassy as their people were all pulled out of Libya. So why again was The Turk Envoy meeting Stevens in Benghazi? You didn't want to say it was over some diplomatic work in Benghazi did you? Whats so funny is when the left doesn't pick up all that News from overseas. Then they ended up missing all those other little details. Did you forget Hillary testifying that her Dept was taking over Gadhafi's Warehouses and that they were accumulating Man-pads?

    Why did the Syrian Rebels say they received specifically.....US ManPads?


    State Department's own guards attacked U.S. Benghazi mission

    The recently released Senate report on the Benghazi attack reveals that the Islamic militia hired to protect the fated U.S. special mission had “vandalized” and “attacked” the mission in the months prior to Sept. 11, 2012. The new detail raises the question of why the State Department, headed at the time by Hillary Clinton, would continue to employ the 17th of February Martyrs Brigade, an al-Qaida-linked organization, to provide external security to the U.S. facility. The 88-page Senate report, reviewed in full by WND, states the U.S. Benghazi mission “had been vandalized and attacked in the months prior to the September 11-12 attacks by some of the same guards who were there to protect it.” That piece of information was not mentioned in the State Department-sanctioned Accountability Review Board, or ARB, investigating the attack.

    WND reported Tuesday the Senate report also for the first time reveals the 17th of February Brigade militia refused to “provide cover” for the U.S. security team that was trapped inside the compound. The ARB paints a picture of the 17th of February Brigade as largely aiding in the evacuation of the U.S. personnel at the mission. The 17th of February Brigade operates under the Ansar-Al-Sharia banner. Ansar al-Sharia, tied to al-Qaida, has been implicated in carrying out the attack. The role of Ansar al-Sharia’s 17th of February Brigade in providing security at the compound may prompt more questions following the naming last week of senior Ansar leader Abu Sufian bin Qumu as a ringleader in the Benghazi attack.....snip~

    State Department’s own guards attacked U.S. Benghazi mission

    Oh yeah.....you remember Qumo Right? That would be Bin Laden's Driver. Imagine that!
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    re: Top CIA officer in Benghazi delayed response to terrorist attack [W:222]

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Even if Rice had said it was an attack instead of a protest in the first place....it still wouldn't have saved Amb. Stevens. So what difference does it make?
    It would not have been a lie to the American people in a desperate attempt to cover up the fact that the Presidents' touted victories against Al Qaeda had not, in fact, materialized in gains on the ground?

    Didn't that program start under Bush?
    Nope.

    Yeah, that was bad and I don't condone it....but the motives were completely different. Nixon wanted to find dirt on his political oppenents and Obama wanted to find whoever was leaking classified information to the media. Politcal agenda vs National security. See the difference?
    Crime is crime regardless of motive. If your argument is that Nixon was bad because he sanctioned a break-in....

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    re: Top CIA officer in Benghazi delayed response to terrorist attack [W:222]

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    Re #1, who was that? Just curious.
    Sarcogito. I was sad to lose him - he was good people.

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    re: Top CIA officer in Benghazi delayed response to terrorist attack [W:222]

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    1. I have known that the Administration was lying about this event since the day after it occurred. [...]
    What you think you know and what you can prove to any reasonable certainty is two different things.

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    So did the guy who was here who was at that embassy. Bit of a lefty fellow, he got pretty jaded throughout the whole process, watching the administration he supported lie about his friends. Ended up quitting here shortly thereafter.
    It's the internet -- people can be whoever they want to be.

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    I looked at the JW documents; none of it would meet the legal or actionable definition of a conspiracy. In fact most of it seemed to paint the administration as stressing that the 'YouTube story' was preliminary, subject to an ongoing investigation and subject to review/change.

    Again, right wing conspiracy theory fail.

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