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    re: Top CIA officer in Benghazi delayed response to terrorist attack [W:222]

    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    Uh, no, Nixon was invloved in the conspiracy to commit the crime: Daniel Elsbergs "Pentagon Papers" were the target and Nixon feared what they would have revealed about him. Then Nixon conspired to obstruct investigations. The ad hoc attack on the Benghazi embassy, was not a major attack on the United States; your hyperbole is very amusing and a very large reason that your version of it has no credibility in the world. And Bush did pull a stunt like that!! he and his thugs lied their asses off and got nearly 6,000 Americans killed for nothing and opened up the door for ISIS.

    I think peraps you should revisit your position.
    That's possible - I've haven't spent much time studying the history of the Nixon era (unlike the Middle East, where I have spent some considerable time both academically and professionally). However, the point remains - that the Administration chose to lie to the American people about a significant terrorist attack in the middle of an election in order to shape domestic politics is hardly a non-issue.

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    re: Top CIA officer in Benghazi delayed response to terrorist attack [W:222]

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    [...] However, the point remains - that the Administration chose to lie to the American people about a significant terrorist attack in the middle of an election in order to shape domestic politics is hardly a non-issue.
    Be careful; if you guys keep coming up with / repeating these conspiracy theories you might start believing them yourself . . . . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    What did they cover up? A talking point?
    No, they lied, repeatedly and deliberately to the American people. Hillary looked the families of the fallen in the face and lied to them directly. They lied to us about the source of the attack because they wanted to make the Administration look better than it was.

    Calling this a "talking point" is like calling Bush's claim that Iraq had WMD's "a speech line".

    I mean it's not like anyone tried to break into a private office to steal political oppenents private information.... or covertly sold arms to Iran during an embargo in exchange for drug money or anything.
    Yeah. Can you imagine how insane it would be if this administration were involved in an incompetent attempt to sell weapons to America's enemies? That would be crazy. I mean, that would be almost as crazy as if they illegally broken into others information in order to search for private data. I'm so glad we don't have to worry about that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    Be careful; if you guys keep coming up with / repeating these conspiracy theories you might start believing them yourself . . . . .
    1. I have known that the Administration was lying about this event since the day after it occurred. So did the guy who was here who was at that embassy. Bit of a lefty fellow, he got pretty jaded throughout the whole process, watching the administration he supported lie about his friends. Ended up quitting here shortly thereafter.

    2. We actually have the documents of the people in the White House conspiring to push the "youtube video" story.

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    re: Top CIA officer in Benghazi delayed response to terrorist attack [W:222]

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    No, they lied, repeatedly and deliberately to the American people. Hillary looked the families of the fallen in the face and lied to them directly. They lied to us about the source of the attack because they wanted to make the Administration look better than it was.

    Calling this a "talking point" is like calling Bush's claim that Iraq had WMD's "a speech line".
    Even if Rice had said it was an attack instead of a protest in the first place....it still wouldn't have saved Amb. Stevens. So what difference does it make?


    Yeah. Can you imagine how insane it would be if this administration were involved in an incompetent attempt to sell weapons to America's enemies? That would be crazy.
    Didn't that program start under Bush?


    I mean, that would be almost as crazy as if they illegally broken into others information in order to search for private data. I'm so glad we don't have to worry about that.
    Yeah, that was bad and I don't condone it....but the motives were completely different. Nixon wanted to find dirt on his political oppenents and Obama wanted to find whoever was leaking classified information to the media. Politcal agenda vs National security. See the difference?

    "...Still, the Obama administration is facing intense pressure to identify and make examples of any officials who helped bring to light a series of recent disclosures ó including new information about the Obama administrationís drone strikes, a joint effort by the United States and Israel to damage Iranian nuclear equipment with a computer virus, and the foiling of a terrorist plot with help from a double agent. (The reports appeared in several recent books and articles, including some by The New York Times.)
    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/10/us...osecution.html

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    re: Top CIA officer in Benghazi delayed response to terrorist attack [W:222]

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    1. I have known that the Administration was lying about this event since the day after it occurred. So did the guy who was here who was at that embassy. Bit of a lefty fellow, he got pretty jaded throughout the whole process, watching the administration he supported lie about his friends. Ended up quitting here shortly thereafter.

    2. We actually have the documents of the people in the White House conspiring to push the "youtube video" story.
    Re #1, who was that? Just curious.

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    re: Top CIA officer in Benghazi delayed response to terrorist attack [W:222]

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Its simple.....BO and his team at first stated they didn't know what was going on. It was a lie. Then they deflected with a Video and Lied about it. They were incompetent as they knew their security had been breached twice before that attack.
    It's too simple....the right wing are politicizing the deaths of four Americans to hurt Hillary.


    Then to top it off.....Hillary and State hired Ansar al Sharia as Security for Benghazi. Who also attacked us and then Ambushed the escape route.
    You're the only one I've seen saying they hired Ansar al Sharia. Do you have a link?

    The ARB report said they hired Libyan February 17 Martyrs’ Brigade (February 17) militia members and unarmed, locally contracted Blue Mountain Libya (BML) guards for security......

    "...In the weeks and months leading up to the attacks, the response from post, Embassy Tripoli, and Washington to a deteriorating security situation was inadequate. At the same time, the SMC’s dependence on the armed but poorly skilled Libyan February 17 Martyrs’ Brigade (February 17) militia members and unarmed, locally contracted Blue Mountain Libya (BML) guards for security support was misplaced.
    Although the February 17 militia had proven effective in responding to improvised explosive device (IED) attacks on the Special Mission in April and June 2012, there were some troubling indicators of its reliability in the months and weeks preceding the September attacks. At the time of Ambassador Stevens’ visit, February 17 militia members had stopped accompanying Special Mission vehicle movements in protest over salary and working hours.
    http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/202446.pdf


    Also then there is the Issue of the Turk Envoy meeting Stevens in Benghazi.....while the Turks had no Embassy in Libya, Period. Which involves a weapons transfer and to Syria. (yet not Brought out into the open) Even tho the Rebels in Syria admitted they received Weapons and ManPads from Libya.

    Which is another reason why Gowdy is taking those depositions.
    Ahh, so conservatives are just trying to make the facts fit their assumptions. Got it. Geezus, is there anything you aren't blaming Hillary for?

    The British didn't have an embassy in Benghazi either but they were allowed to park their cars at the compound. Period? The right wing was screaming for Obama to arm the Syrian rebels against Assad so I really don't see the problem with transferring arms from Libya to Syria. They were probably originally from the US anyway. <shrug>
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    re: Top CIA officer in Benghazi delayed response to terrorist attack [W:222]

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post

    "...Still, the Obama administration is facing intense pressure to identify and make examples of any officials who helped bring to light a series of recent disclosures ó including new information about the Obama administrationís drone strikes, a joint effort by the United States and Israel to damage Iranian nuclear equipment with a computer virus, and the foiling of a terrorist plot with help from a double agent. (The reports appeared in several recent books and articles, including some by The New York Times.)
    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/10/us...osecution.html
    Now he and the rest of the righties know one of the ponts of the President's strategy.
    Never tell the GOP anything BEFORE you do it, as with the current ISIL bombing, and taking out the Somali terrorist Leader.

    Too bad it took Mr. Obama SIX long years to change his strategy with GOPs, even though he knew what he was dealing with .
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    re: Top CIA officer in Benghazi delayed response to terrorist attack [W:222]

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Now he and the rest of the righties know one of the ponts of the President's strategy.
    Never tell the GOP anything BEFORE you do it, as with the current ISIL bombing, and taking out the Somali terrorist Leader.

    Too bad it took Mr. Obama SIX long years to change his strategy with GOPs, even though he knew what he was dealing with .
    That's right, he probably wouldn't have gotten OBL if the GOP knew the plan before hand. lol

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    re: Top CIA officer in Benghazi delayed response to terrorist attack [W:222]

    They've been gloating for months how they're gonna kick the Dems ass in Nov, while I've kept my feelings about success close to the vest.

    After the dreadful week they just had--Kansas Senate candidate Orman, great Obama trip overseas, McConnell campaign manager resigning,
    Obama not taking the bait on Immigration, with a very large etc, they're back to all their faux scandals .
    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    That's right, he probably wouldn't have gotten OBL if the GOP knew the plan before hand. lol
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