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US goes on AK-47 buying frenzy after sanctions imposed on Russian Kalashnikov maker

Re: Barack Obama - the best sales agent in this century

BTW, the NRA doesn't represent nor does it get any money from the Russian AK-47 market. Just in case you didn't think about that in what appeared to be a "misfired" (pun intended) jab at the NRA?
Well, maybe I was wrong about NRA.
But the fact that the Americans who came to love the Russian AK-47 for reliability, simplicity and power, ran to the store to buy the rest of the legendary Russian-made guns makes me laugh
 
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US goes on AK-47 buying frenzy after sanctions imposed on Russian Kalashnikov maker - Telegraph

Sanctions provoked gun boom. NRA must be happy. Well done, mister President

You know, I'm not the least bit surprised. I wonder when my husband is going to beg me to let him buy one of them.

I love your premise that Obama is the best gun salesman. :thumbs: That's what my husband always said about Clinton.
 
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Well, maybe I was wrong about NRA.
But the fact that the Americans who came to love the Russian AK-47 for reliability, simplicity and power, ran to the store to buy the rest of the legendary Russian-made guns makes me laugh

Why laugh? What you said were the reasons, are true.

And for the record, it isn't just Obama that raises firearm sales. There are a large number of Democrats that can have that same effect, such as that wonderful California Senator that every few years brings her bill back to the floor (again and again) to ban as much as she can - which makes the shelves clear each time of ammo, magazines, rifles, hand guns and of course t-shirts galore.
 
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You know, I'm not the least bit surprised. I wonder when my husband is going to beg me to let him buy one of them.

I love your premise that Obama is the best gun salesman. :thumbs: That's what my husband always said about Clinton.

Hope that he doesn't. A Russian made AK-47 bought with a Class III license would cost you about 35 to 50 grand - before the ban went into place. I have no idea what they're going for now.

I found this for you:

These guys are only showing one left at $55K and it's a Chinese Communist model that looks pretty rough.
 
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Hope that he doesn't. A Russian made AK-47 bought with a Class III license would cost you about 35 to 50 grand - before the ban went into place. I have no idea what they're going for now.

I found this for you:

These guys are only showing one left at $55K and it's a Chinese Communist model that looks pretty rough.

Oh don't worry. He isn't getting that kind of money to buy a gun, I don't care if Sean Connery personally delivers it to our house naked.
 
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Oh don't worry. He isn't getting that kind of money to buy a gun, I don't care if Sean Connery personally delivers it to our house naked.

It would still be a real cool thing to own though.
 
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From the article:

"Gun sales tend to spike whenever American consumers believe that new restrictions are imminent".

This couldn't be more true.

"Mr Obama's 2008 and 2012 election victories both caused surges in demand and gun owners went on a buying spree after the Sandy Hook shooting".

Amazing how the election of a president caused a surge in gun ownership twice over.
People felt the need to protect themselves.
 
Re: US goes on AK-47 buying frenzy after sanctions imposed on Russian Kalashnikov mak

US goes on AK-47 buying frenzy after sanctions imposed on Russian Kalashnikov maker - Telegraph

Sanctions provoked gun boom. NRA must be happy. Well done, mister President

I really don't know who is buying what he is selling...

I think progressives only tolerate his nonsense because progressives hate non-progressives.... Of course a lot of democrats are starting to call bullcrap on everything he says and republicans called bullcrap from the very beginning and libertarians believe he is just another tyrant regardless of his political affiliation (which doesn't help) considering libertarians distrust progressives completely given the notion they're all for "big government, the nanny state and blatant socialism."

The only reason why the liar got a second term is voter fraud and the fact progressives/democrats just hate the word "republican."

IMO, democrats would rather elect the devil over a republican out of spite.
 
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It would still be a real cool thing to own though.

Mornin Beau, Do you think this is a legitimate part of the sanctions imposed on Russia, or a back door Obama gun grab as some have claimed?
 
Re: Barack Obama - the best sales agent in this century

From the article:

"Gun sales tend to spike whenever American consumers believe that new restrictions are imminent".

This couldn't be more true.

"Mr Obama's 2008 and 2012 election victories both caused surges in demand and gun owners went on a buying spree after the Sandy Hook shooting".

Amazing how the election of a president caused a surge in gun ownership twice over.
People felt the need to protect themselves.

What's really amazing is the unfounded fear that drives those spikes. Obama has done very VERY little in the way of gun restrictions.
 
Re: US goes on AK-47 buying frenzy after sanctions imposed on Russian Kalashnikov mak

I really don't know who is buying what he is selling...

I think progressives only tolerate his nonsense because progressives hate non-progressives.... Of course a lot of democrats are starting to call bullcrap on everything he says and republicans called bullcrap from the very beginning and libertarians believe he is just another tyrant regardless of his political affiliation (which doesn't help) considering libertarians distrust progressives completely given the notion they're all for "big government, the nanny state and blatant socialism."

The only reason why the liar got a second term is voter fraud and the fact progressives/democrats just hate the word "republican."

IMO, democrats would rather elect the devil over a republican out of spite.

The same argument could be made of conservatives during the Bush presidency. They too were running from him at the end. He finished out at 22% remember. In the 08 campaign, no conservative would let Bush anywhere near them, lol. Such partisan crap.
 
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The same argument could be made of conservatives during the Bush presidency. They too were running from him at the end. He finished out at 22% remember. In the 08 campaign, no conservative would let Bush anywhere near them, lol. Such partisan crap.

I was never a big fan of Bush - only for certain reasons like the Patriot Act.... Bush was certainly gullible and didn't see how the Patriot Act would be abused...

At least Bush had balls tho...

Obama did the same punk **** Bush did - just for different reasons and he did them 10x over...... I can understand why some may not like Bush but if they're progressives they have absolutely zero logical hate because if they're going to champion Obama and bash Bush I call that epic hypocrisy. Of course it doesn't even end there - we can blame our congress for all of this nonsense to boot, because after all it is congress that approves these crazy ideas, so with that said it's not only Bush's fault or even Obama (well yeah it is because he thinks hes a king as do progressives)..... The real fault lays on the general populace and their political gangbanging...
 
Re: Barack Obama - the best sales agent in this century

Didn't Prez Oblabla say not too long ago, "the cold war has been over for twenty years"? But then he promised to bring down Wall St. and raise up Main St.? After Sandy Hook how many guns have been sold here in the good ol' USA? Isn't he now sending troops BACK to Iraq? Isn't he a huge dumb ass thinking the ban on AK47s would blow the dust off a fly's ass?
 
Re: Barack Obama - the best sales agent in this century

Didn't Prez Oblabla say not too long ago, "the cold war has been over for twenty years"? But then he promised to bring down Wall St. and raise up Main St.? After Sandy Hook how many guns have been sold here in the good ol' USA? Isn't he now sending troops BACK to Iraq? Isn't he a huge dumb ass thinking the ban on AK47s would blow the dust off a fly's ass?

It's all about those sanctions and the sanctions are a good start on a new Cold War. We gave trillions of Welfare Queen monies to the banks, and we gave billions of Welfare Queen monies to the Auto Industry, and now we are re-starting the Cold War as more Welfare Queen monies to the Military/Industrial/Corporate/Complex arms Industries. More Corporate subsidies for the true "Welfare Queens." Damn shame because the AK is a really nice piece.
 
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I don't know a lot about weapons, but even I know that there are so many variations of the AK 47 manufactured around the world, so it's not like Russian is the only source: AK-47 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
Re: Barack Obama - the best sales agent in this century

It's all about those sanctions and the sanctions are a good start on a new Cold War. We gave trillions of Welfare Queen monies to the banks, and we gave billions of Welfare Queen monies to the Auto Industry, and now we are re-starting the Cold War as more Welfare Queen monies to the Military/Industrial/Corporate/Complex arms Industries. More Corporate subsidies for the true "Welfare Queens." Damn shame because the AK is a really nice piece.

"The record's stuck, the record's stuck, the record's stuck."
 
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Obama has done very VERY little in the way of gun restrictions.

True but BHO has consistently shown support for an assault weapons ban.

Here BHO confirms his stance but he states a fact, hand guns is the weapon of
choice when it come to violence in the streets.

Oct 17,2012 - So my belief is that, A, we have to enforce the laws we’ve already got; make sure that we’re keeping guns out of the hands of criminals, those who are mentally ill. We’ve done a much better job in terms of background checks, but we’ve got more to do when it comes to enforcement.

But I also share your belief that weapons that were designed for soldiers in war theaters don’t belong on our streets. And so what I’m trying to do is to get a broader conversation about how do we reduce the violence generally. Part of it is seeing if we can get an assault weapons ban reintroduced, but part of it is also looking at other sources of the violence -- because, frankly, in my hometown of Chicago there’s an awful lot of violence, and they’re not using AK-47s, they’re using cheap handguns.
Remarks by the President and Governor Romney in Second Presidential Debate | The White House
 
Re: Barack Obama - the best sales agent in this century

From the article:

"Gun sales tend to spike whenever American consumers believe that new restrictions are imminent".

This couldn't be more true.

"Mr Obama's 2008 and 2012 election victories both caused surges in demand and gun owners went on a buying spree after the Sandy Hook shooting".

Amazing how the election of a president caused a surge in gun ownership twice over.
People felt the need to protect themselves.

People felt they need to protect themselves from the potential loss of their Second Amendment Rights, not to protect themselves with a gun from the President. Although, there have always been, and will always be, those that feel that they must arm themselves against ALL government, and prepare for some war that in their mind they feel is coming - these people, however, have nothing to do with the 99.999999% that bought guns, ammo and magazines when Obama was elected.
 
Re: US goes on AK-47 buying frenzy after sanctions imposed on Russian Kalashnikov mak

I was never a big fan of Bush - only for certain reasons like the Patriot Act.... Bush was certainly gullible and didn't see how the Patriot Act would be abused...

At least Bush had balls tho...

Obama did the same punk **** Bush did - just for different reasons and he did them 10x over...... I can understand why some may not like Bush but if they're progressives they have absolutely zero logical hate because if they're going to champion Obama and bash Bush I call that epic hypocrisy. Of course it doesn't even end there - we can blame our congress for all of this nonsense to boot, because after all it is congress that approves these crazy ideas, so with that said it's not only Bush's fault or even Obama (well yeah it is because he thinks hes a king as do progressives)..... The real fault lays on the general populace and their political gangbanging...

Well no, what you're witnessing in my post is anything but a championing of Obama. I merely pointed out that the 2008/2012 and now the AK47 fears are largely unfounded due to the fact that Obama has really done nothing to restrict gun ownership. Didn't he allow guns back into the national parks? And as pointed out by Beua, there's plenty of alternatives to the russian made AK47 available.
 
Re: Barack Obama - the best sales agent in this century

"The record's stuck, the record's stuck, the record's stuck."

The system is stuck, the system is stuck, the system is stuck.
 
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