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    Re: Source: Obama given detailed intelligence for a year about rise of ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Easy money.....and here from one of the Left leaning MS Media sources out there. Oh and for the rest on Benghazi.....you can look up the 8-12 threads we have and see all that information.....in each one of them. As we didn't want the naysayers to think they were getting around those facts.

    Oh and you can look up the Guardian, the Independent and the BBC.....including Politi Fact and Fact Check.Org Benghazi Timelines, for what those in Libya went on to say. Which the Interim for Libya was even making the Sunday Talks shows here in the US.




    Obama, al-Maliki to address Iraq's violence spike at White House meeting

    Iraq's prime minister, facing an insurgent al Qaeda affiliate and sectarian strife, will appeal to President Barack Obama on Friday for new assistance from the United States, even as some lawmakers question Nuri al-Maliki's ability to lead his nation. A fresh rise in suicide bombers affiliated with al Qaeda has left more than 6,000 people dead this year alone, according to United Nations estimates. Violence has been on the upswing: On Wednesday, a suicide bomber killed at least nine people and wounded 25 others at a police checkpoint west of Mosul.

    Al-Maliki is expected to ask for assistance in the form of weapons, equipment and intelligence-sharing in a bid to quell the bloodshed, two years after the United States withdrew almost all its troops from Iraq after Baghdad refused to renew a security agreement to extend legal immunity for American forces.....snip~

    Obama, al-Maliki to address Iraq's violence spike at White House - CNN.com
    And when al-Maliki went to the White House, did he offer to abide by the SOFA that we require before we send in our troops?

    While we're at it, what was al-Maliki doing very, very wrong? He was keeping Sunnis out of the government, keeping almost the entire government Shi'a, and we and other nations told him that he was screwing up by doing so. Before we left Iraq, we had his agreement to include Sunnis in the government that they, too, would have representation. al-Maliki didn't do it. We warned him that this would lead to unrest among the Sunnis, and he did not listen.

    I suggest you determine who really was at fault for the Sunni unrest before you start blaming everything on Obama.
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    Re: Source: Obama given detailed intelligence for a year about rise of ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    And when al-Maliki went to the White House, did he offer to abide by the SOFA that we require before we send in our troops?

    While we're at it, what was al-Maliki doing very, very wrong? He was keeping Sunnis out of the government, keeping almost the entire government Shi'a, and we and other nations told him that he was screwing up by doing so. Before we left Iraq, we had his agreement to include Sunnis in the government that they, too, would have representation. al-Maliki didn't do it. We warned him that this would lead to unrest among the Sunnis, and he did not listen.

    I suggest you determine who really was at fault for the Sunni unrest before you start blaming everything on Obama.

    Try again Glen.....I stated BO knew and he did. Also the articles points out Maliki's problems. This still does not change the fact that he came to BO in Nov of last year. He also stated that what was going on Syria would spill over into Iraq. Which it did.

    Now all have it out there.....so it can't be spun any other way. BO does have to claim whats he was part of.

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    Re: Source: Obama given detailed intelligence for a year about rise of ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Jeez, now you're starting to sound like Ron Paul.

    If we stopped meddling do you think ISIS and ISIL will slink off back to their caves ?

    Do you think they'll stop the caliphate if America plays nice ?
    No, Ron Paul may sound like me. IS and all the rest of the militant Islamic groups milling about the ME due to power vacuums that the US has created, would never have found the sanctuary that they have. Do you even know what Syria, Libya and Iraq look like today? If all you look at is Fox News, I can answer that for you. Go to real news, go to Al Jazeera which has updates in those states daily.
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    Re: Source: Obama given detailed intelligence for a year about rise of ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Try again Glen.....I stated BO knew and he did. Also the articles points out Maliki's problems. This still does not change the fact that he came to BO in Nov of last year. He also stated that what was going on Syria would spill over into Iraq. Which it did.

    Now all have it out there.....so it can't be spun any other way. BO does have to claim whats he was part of.
    And what you're still not getting is that they told al-Maliki long before then that if he continues to shove Sunnis out of the government and disenfranchise them, he will alienate them and there would be unrest. They told him this would happen...and it did.

    And you're angry with the president for not running to the rescue of a de facto dictator who the president had warned was setting up his own nation for unrest?
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    Re: Source: Obama given detailed intelligence for a year about rise of ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    And what you're still not getting is that they told al-Maliki long before then that if he continues to shove Sunnis out of the government and disenfranchise them, he will alienate them and there would be unrest. They told him this would happen...and it did.

    And you're angry with the president for not running to the rescue of a de facto dictator who the president had warned was setting up his own nation for unrest?

    No not quite Glen.....Why wouldn't I get it. I know the whole entire issue. As well as both sides of the Aisles Pundits and their talking points. Again what was going on with Maliki and what we told him, really doesn't matter when it comes down to him coming to visit and request help.....after how much time passed? After he played with the SOFA.

    You forget I lived around BO and his BS long before he made the national scene Glen.

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    Re: Source: Obama given detailed intelligence for a year about rise of ISIS

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    Shooting the messenger. Go figure.
    Nah... just putting them out of their misery... because they constantly shoot themselves when they do this thing where they open their mouths.
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    Re: Source: Obama given detailed intelligence for a year about rise of ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Here's the deal.
    Right, sheer partisanship.

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    Re: Source: Obama given detailed intelligence for a year about rise of ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Mornin 29A. Here is what the RAND Corporation has to say on it.

    [In a WSJ op-ed yesterday about the report, Jones reports, without mentioning Obama's repeated claims of having al Qaeda "on the run," that "The number[s] of al Qaeda and other jihadist groups and fighters are growing, not shrinking.... From 2010 to 2013 the number of jihadist groups world-wide has grown by 58%, to 49 from 31; the number of jihadist fighters has doubled to a high estimate of 100,000; and the number of attacks by al Qaeda affiliates has increased to roughly 1,000 from 392."

    Terrorism Flourishes During Obama Years
    Hey MMC, thanks for the link. But, imo, the assertion is not supported by the Rand site.

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