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    Re: Source: Obama given detailed intelligence for a year about rise of ISIS

    Here's the deal. People are sheep and will support the party, no matter what. Before 911, Bush had an intelligence report that al-Queda was going to strike and did nothing about it. Then 911 happened. Democrats attacked Bush, and Republicans defended him. Flash forward to today, when we find out that Obama has been given intelligence about ISIS, and has done nothing. And what's happening? Republicans are attacking him, and Democrats are defending him. This thread, just like the one about Bush years ago, is just another partisan circle jerk. Yup, just like the Bush threads, only the roles have been reversed.
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    Re: Source: Obama given detailed intelligence for a year about rise of ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    Okay... I guess it's this time:

    All because you salivate over an anonymous sourced story written by an extreme political hack organization.
    ... Tin foil hats are for aliens and conpiracies: things that are so improbable so as to be ridiculous. There has been a large purging of the military, top to bottom. I don't have many military contacts, but all of the ones I do have (active & retired) agree that a purge has been ongoing for a while.

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    Re: Source: Obama given detailed intelligence for a year about rise of ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Oh, I guess you didn't know about Maliki visiting BO in Nov of 2013 and asking him for Tech and Air Strikes Right here at the WH and BO denying him.

    No the Republican controlled house knows what the Interim President of Libya at the time told the BBC.....they also know about the State Dept being told so by the Head of Libyan Security, and of course they did talk about those failings by State. Also that's why Gowdy is STILL taking Depositions. Guess you forgot about that.....since you thought the Republican controlled house had given up their investigation.
    References, please. And when you provide references, make sure that they're not instances where some wingnut refers to his own column as proof, or refers to some other wingnut blog as proof. Make sure that there's some kind of official proof of what you claim.

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    Re: Source: Obama given detailed intelligence for a year about rise of ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by Luftwaffe View Post
    "decimated and on the run" "radicals" "islamists"

    GWB didn't do jack ****, maybe to morons he did.

    last I recall, osama bin laden got the hammer from obama not bush.
    It's known as "Bush's Secret War Against Al Qaeda." In layman terms your not suppose to know and unlike Obama, Bush didn't politicize the war against Al Qaeda.

    As for Obama getting Bin Laden, according to Leon Panetta the evidence that led to finding Bin Laden was gathered during the Bush administration. Some of it from waterbording. If you remember when Obama became POTUS he stopped capturing high ranking Al Qaeda so intelligence could be gathered. Probably because Obama refused to send any more captured terrorist to Gitmo. Back in 2012 even a CIA whistle blower warned that the Obama administration has been completely relying on intelligence gathered during the Bush administration and that intelligence is drying up.

    It was Admiral McRaven who issued the order for the Navy SEAL's to go in and get Bin Laden, not Obama. For over three months the Obama administration knew where Bin Laden was the Navy Seal's were ready to go in and according to Navy SEAL's they were ordered two or three times to stand down. White House rumors say it was Valerie B. Jarrett who was responsable.

    Eventually Obama threw it on Leon Panetta's lap who then threw it on Admiral McRaven's lap. Obama was playing golf and was completely unaware that the helicopters were in the air after Admiral McRaven issued the order to initiate the mission. Obama was out of the loop.

    All you have to do is look at the photo of Obama and his incompetent team in the White House sistuation room that night, every one in the photo looked completely clueless except for Gates and the Air Force officer looking at his laptop. Obama wasn't even sitting in the CnC chair, because he wasn't even in charge.

    And don't forget the memo that Time Magazine got there hands on.

    >" The memo puts all control in the hands of Admiral McRaven – the “timing, operational decision making and control” are all up to McRaven. So the notion that Obama and his team were walking through every stage of the operation is incorrect. The hero here was McRaven, not Obama. And had the mission gone wrong, McRaven surely would have been thrown under the bus...."<

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    Re: Source: Obama given detailed intelligence for a year about rise of ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    References, please. And when you provide references, make sure that they're not instances where some wingnut refers to his own column as proof, or refers to some other wingnut blog as proof. Make sure that there's some kind of official proof of what you claim.

    Have fun!
    Easy money.....and here from one of the Left leaning MS Media sources out there. Oh and for the rest on Benghazi.....you can look up the 8-12 threads we have and see all that information.....in each one of them. As we didn't want the naysayers to think they were getting around those facts.

    Oh and you can look up the Guardian, the Independent and the BBC.....including Politi Fact and Fact Check.Org Benghazi Timelines, for what those in Libya went on to say. Which the Interim for Libya was even making the Sunday Talks shows here in the US.




    Obama, al-Maliki to address Iraq's violence spike at White House meeting

    Iraq's prime minister, facing an insurgent al Qaeda affiliate and sectarian strife, will appeal to President Barack Obama on Friday for new assistance from the United States, even as some lawmakers question Nuri al-Maliki's ability to lead his nation. A fresh rise in suicide bombers affiliated with al Qaeda has left more than 6,000 people dead this year alone, according to United Nations estimates. Violence has been on the upswing: On Wednesday, a suicide bomber killed at least nine people and wounded 25 others at a police checkpoint west of Mosul.

    Al-Maliki is expected to ask for assistance in the form of weapons, equipment and intelligence-sharing in a bid to quell the bloodshed, two years after the United States withdrew almost all its troops from Iraq after Baghdad refused to renew a security agreement to extend legal immunity for American forces.....snip~

    Obama, al-Maliki to address Iraq's violence spike at White House - CNN.com

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    Re: Source: Obama given detailed intelligence for a year about rise of ISIS

    Libs live in their own fantasy world. Dont like the message? Attack the messenger, blame bush.

    Just admit bho incompetence and move on. Is what it is.

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    Re: Source: Obama given detailed intelligence for a year about rise of ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    He knew ISIS was growing...but did he have foreknowledge of ISIS' offensive into northern Iraq? And in the VERY unlikely event that he did, how exactly is this a dereliction of duty since it does not involve Americans or American soil?

    Of course, we DID have a president who was repeatedly warned that a certain terrorist was planning a major attack on American soil and flatly ignored those warnings - "Okay, you've covered your ass" was the quote, but we can never blame things on him, can we?
    Don't be so hard on Clinton.

    And Obama learned avow Isis when WE learned about Isis.
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    Re: Source: Obama given detailed intelligence for a year about rise of ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    You're right.

    Obama's foreign policy incompetence means that Lybia is now a Country run by Islamic extremists. They even took over Tripoli Airport and have absconded with 12 passenger jets.
    Yep. Egypt and UAE have had to respond militarily. Something that wasn't necessary when Gaddafi was there. Btw, regime change in Libya unfortunately was supported by the right, too.
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    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Source: Obama given detailed intelligence for a year about rise of ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Here's the deal. People are sheep and will support the party, no matter what. Before 911, Bush had an intelligence report that al-Queda was going to strike and did nothing about it. Then 911 happened. Democrats attacked Bush, and Republicans defended him. Flash forward to today, when we find out that Obama has been given intelligence about ISIS, and has done nothing. And what's happening? Republicans are attacking him, and Democrats are defending him. This thread, just like the one about Bush years ago, is just another partisan circle jerk. Yup, just like the Bush threads, only the roles have been reversed.
    And there it is. My question would be, why do Americans hold the party above our security, our liberties, our integrity, our values. And why don't Americans hold all administrations to accountability? Partisans ARE the American problem, for without their support, no administration would get away with incompetence and wrong doing.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Source: Obama given detailed intelligence for a year about rise of ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Yep. Egypt and UAE have had to respond militarily. Something that wasn't necessary when Gaddafi was there. Btw, regime change in Libya unfortunately was supported by the right.

    Not quite.....the Tea Party wasn't for it other than Ted Cruz and that's when Rand Paul and Johnny Quest McCain got into it with their verbal gaffs. Also there were quite a few against it that were establishment Repubs.

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