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    Re: Source: Obama given detailed intelligence for a year about rise of ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by 29A View Post
    I'm having difficulty verifying your assertion; basically, the latest figures I can find for terrorism statistics are from 2011, and the trend is mostly downward.



    The Washington Post has a graph, total and fatal terrorist attacks in the US by year, 1970 to 2011, which does not show the increase either.
    Eight facts about terrorism in the United States - The Washington Post

    Mornin 29A. Here is what the RAND Corporation has to say on it.

    Terrorism Flourishes During Obama Years.....

    RAND Documents Rise of Terrorism Under Obama

    Seth Jones, the associate director of the International Security and Defense Policy Center at the RAND Corp., released a report yesterday called "A Persistent Threat: The Evolution of al Qa'ida and Other Salafi-Jihadists." In a WSJ op-ed yesterday about the report, Jones reports, without mentioning Obama's repeated claims of having al Qaeda "on the run," that "The number[s] of al Qaeda and other jihadist groups and fighters are growing, not shrinking.... From 2010 to 2013 the number of jihadist groups world-wide has grown by 58%, to 49 from 31; the number of jihadist fighters has doubled to a high estimate of 100,000; and the number of attacks by al Qaeda affiliates has increased to roughly 1,000 from 392."

    Jones claims that Russia, China, and Iran all pose dangers to the US, but "these nations are not to our knowledge actively plotting attacks against the American homeland. A handful of terrorist groups, however, remain dedicated to attacking the U.S. at home and overseas.... Ayman al-Zawahiri remains committed to striking the U.S. He is flanked by a number of Americans, such as Abdullah al-Shami and Adam Gadahn, who support that goal." He identifies the threats to the US, itself, as coming primarily from groups operating in Yemen, Afghanistan, Pakistan, and Syria, referencing Moner Mohammad Abusalha, an American who was a member of the al Qaeda affiliate organization al-Nusra, who blew himself up in a suicide bombing in Syria on March 29.....snip~

    Terrorism Flourishes During Obama Years

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    Re: Source: Obama given detailed intelligence for a year about rise of ISIS

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    Source: Obama given detailed intelligence for a year about rise of ISIS

    >" President Obama was given detailed and specific intelligence about the rise of the Islamic State as part of his daily briefing for at least a year before the group seized large swaths of territory over the summer, a former Pentagon official told Fox News.

    The official -- who asked not to be identified because the President's Daily Brief is considered the most authoritative, classified intelligence community product analyzing sensitive international events for the president -- said the data was strong and "granular" in detail.

    The source said a policymaker "could not come away with any other impression: This is getting bad."

    Obama, unlike his predecessors who traditionally had the document briefed to them, is known to personally read the daily brief. The former Pentagon official, who has knowledge of the process, said Obama generally was not known to come back to the intelligence community with further requests for information based on the daily report..."<

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    Source: Obama given detailed intelligence for a year about rise of ISIS | Fox News


    Incompetence is one thing, it's expected, Obama is nothing more than a community organiser. But dereliction of duty as CnC Dereliction of duty falls under United States Code Title 10 892. Article 92

    "ISIS is JV."

    Obama has been informed of ISIS for over a year and he doesn't have a strategy yet to deal with ISIS ?
    A disgruntled pentagon official, on the anonymous, tells FAUX News this! Or its just more evidence that US ME policy is facilitating militant Islamic groups as has been the case for over three decades.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Source: Obama given detailed intelligence for a year about rise of ISIS

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    Mornin 29A. Here is what the RAND Corporation has to say on it.

    Terrorism Flourishes During Obama Years.....

    RAND Documents Rise of Terrorism Under Obama

    Seth Jones, the associate director of the International Security and Defense Policy Center at the RAND Corp., released a report yesterday called "A Persistent Threat: The Evolution of al Qa'ida and Other Salafi-Jihadists." In a WSJ op-ed yesterday about the report, Jones reports, without mentioning Obama's repeated claims of having al Qaeda "on the run," that "The number[s] of al Qaeda and other jihadist groups and fighters are growing, not shrinking.... From 2010 to 2013 the number of jihadist groups world-wide has grown by 58%, to 49 from 31; the number of jihadist fighters has doubled to a high estimate of 100,000; and the number of attacks by al Qaeda affiliates has increased to roughly 1,000 from 392."

    Jones claims that Russia, China, and Iran all pose dangers to the US, but "these nations are not to our knowledge actively plotting attacks against the American homeland. A handful of terrorist groups, however, remain dedicated to attacking the U.S. at home and overseas.... Ayman al-Zawahiri remains committed to striking the U.S. He is flanked by a number of Americans, such as Abdullah al-Shami and Adam Gadahn, who support that goal." He identifies the threats to the US, itself, as coming primarily from groups operating in Yemen, Afghanistan, Pakistan, and Syria, referencing Moner Mohammad Abusalha, an American who was a member of the al Qaeda affiliate organization al-Nusra, who blew himself up in a suicide bombing in Syria on March 29.....snip~

    Terrorism Flourishes During Obama Years
    Howdy MMC! US policy in the ME has given rise to militant Islamic groups for decades. This isn't just Obama.

    U.S. Democracy Promotion Policy in the Middle East: the Islamist Dilemma
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Source: Obama given detailed intelligence for a year about rise of ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Howdy MMC! US policy in the ME has given rise to militant Islamic groups for decades. This isn't just Obama.

    U.S. Democracy Promotion Policy in the Middle East: the Islamist Dilemma
    And this changes, how much it has increased from 2010-2013, did ya say?

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    Re: Source: Obama given detailed intelligence for a year about rise of ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    And this changes, how much it has increased from 2010-2013, did ya say?
    Not at all. There's no question that its worse during that time. The point is that the removal of Hussein was a catalyst, but more than just that, years of support of militant Islamic groups is paying the dividends. Partisan finger pointing will NEVER solve anything. Bush, removed MEK from the terror list and trained them in Nevada. Reap what you sow.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Source: Obama given detailed intelligence for a year about rise of ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Not at all. There's no question that its worse during that time. The point is that the removal of Hussein was a catalyst, but more than just that, years of support of militant Islamic groups is paying the dividends. Partisan finger pointing will NEVER solve anything. Bush, removed MEK from the terror list and trained them in Nevada. Reap what you sow.
    I didn't forget, and one still must look at how this will impact the next 3 or 4 years and what comes out of in the next decade. Which then as you already know.....the microscope becomes the magnifying glass. Which then goes down on BO peeps timeline.....and how he always had it wrong. Kind of like Carter. But worse.

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    Re: Source: Obama given detailed intelligence for a year about rise of ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    Back in 2004 G.W. Bush was POTUS and Al Qaeda and Islamist radicals were being decimated and were on the run.

    Any thing else ?
    "decimated and on the run" "radicals" "islamists"

    GWB didn't do jack ****, maybe to morons he did.

    last I recall, osama bin laden got the hammer from obama not bush.
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    Re: Source: Obama given detailed intelligence for a year about rise of ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    I didn't forget, and one still must look at how this will impact the next 3 or 4 years and what comes out of in the next decade. Which then as you already know.....the microscope becomes the magnifying glass. Which then goes down on BO peeps timeline.....and how he always had it wrong. Kind of like Carter. But worse.
    Yeah, partisan finger pointing accomplishes nothing and partisan support for wrong doing ensures more. US policy, I don't give a damn which party has the White House, has been destabilisation in the ME. This is risky business, every. Once in a while you may have a group who gets a little big for their britches as IS has.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Source: Obama given detailed intelligence for a year about rise of ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Yeah, partisan finger pointing accomplishes nothing and partisan support for wrong doing ensures more. US policy, I don't give a damn which party has the White House, has been destabilisation in the ME. This is risky business, every. Once in a while you may have a group who gets a little big for their britches as IS has.
    Its clear whoever get the Presidency will have a bigger mess to clean up.....due to BO's meddling and screw ups with allies. Democrat or Republican. The Demos see it for what it is and have been sounding off. Which is why those up for the Midterm.....avoid being seen with him.

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    Re: Source: Obama given detailed intelligence for a year about rise of ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Howdy MMC! US policy in the ME has given rise to militant Islamic groups for decades. This isn't just Obama.

    U.S. Democracy Promotion Policy in the Middle East: the Islamist Dilemma

    You're right.

    Obama's foreign policy incompetence means that Lybia is now a Country run by Islamic extremists. They even took over Tripoli Airport and have absconded with 12 passenger jets.
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