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    Re: ISIS Beheads Steven Sotloff.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    It seems to reflect Obama's attitude toward the military. A phone call would fix it.
    How do you know a phone call would fix it? and yes, we know about Obama's contempt for the military. Just ask Bergdahl.
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    Re: ISIS Beheads Steven Sotloff.....

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    I feel for the families of the remaining hostages and of course the hostages themselvesthat remain. I don't think these nutjobs would ever consider not killing.
    Think about it...can you imagine being a hostage right now, knowing what they did to the others, and just biding your time, waiting for your turn. That right there is cruel and torturous.

    Those people are sub-human savages. Makes me so glad I wasn't born there, you know?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roadvirus View Post
    The article says beheading invokes fear.

    I don't know about the rest of you, but it invokes anger in me. And anger is a deadlier emotion then fear.
    It doesn't invoke fear in you because you aren't currently in the Middle East.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JC_CT View Post
    It doesn't invoke fear in you because you aren't currently in the Middle East.
    You are probably right about that. So does ISIS just not understand that, or are they trying to make us mad instead of fearful.
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    Re: ISIS Beheads Steven Sotloff.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    How do you know a phone call would fix it? and yes, we know about Obama's contempt for the military. Just ask Bergdahl.
    Just mention a cut in foreign aid and that should do the job.

    Bergdahl deserted the military and was celebrated by Obama in the Rose Garden.. You've made my case.

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    Re: ISIS Beheads Steven Sotloff.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    I just came across this while I cam across this other little gem, Obama knew about ISIS at least a year ago...
    Just curious, what was it you liked about the original post?
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    Re: ISIS Beheads Steven Sotloff.....

    In my opinion, ISIS is pushing and pushing, hoping for a response from the West and, ultimatley when the West retaliates, Muslims the world over uniting as one. That, I believe is their ultimate game...a united Muslim front. Oh, and I know that most people believe that there are "two" Islams..."fundamental" and "moderate", but there isn't. Mohammad only invented one Islam and there are those who follow it and those who don't.

    Why do real Muslims behead captives/enemies? Why do real Muslims have sex-slaves? Why do real Muslims have child brides? Why do real Muslims kill apostates? Why do real Muslims stone women to death? etc. etc. Because that is exactly what Mohammad did. So called "moderate" Muslims cannot speak out about what ISIS is doing because to do so would be to condemn Mohammad and everything he said and did. Muslims believe that Mohammad was the perfect man and all Muslims should seek to emmulate him and his life. Well, ISIS is doing just that. People have to realise, that Islam is more than just the Qu'ran....Islam is the Qu'ran and the hadith and the sura...Everything Mohammad said and everything Mohammad did is equally as important. Mohammad was a psychopath, a liar, a thief, a mass murderer, a rapist and a pedophile...that is historical fact from Islamic writings, but he is still considered that most perfect man who ever lived and all of his words and actions were sanctioned by God himself. Anyone who knows anything about Mohammad and his life and still chooses to follow him, tells me everything I need to know about that person and that is a person I want nothing to do with and a God I want nothing to do with. I don't believe in the myth of the "moderate" Muslim...I believe that anyone who sanctions and believes in a man like Mohammad is NOT a harmless, moderate person. If Mohammad came back today he would look at ISIS and say "That is Islam, that is what I wanted" and he would condemn "moderate" Muslims as weak and probably apostates.

    ISIS is Islam, full stop. Unfortunately, people in Western nations refuse to accept that..why? Because if one recognises that there is a problem then one has to do something about it and it's all too hard and dangerous to do so.

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    Re: ISIS Beheads Steven Sotloff.....

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Think about it...can you imagine being a hostage right now, knowing what they did to the others, and just biding your time, waiting for your turn. That right there is cruel and torturous.

    Those people are sub-human savages. Makes me so glad I wasn't born there, you know?
    What I don't understand is why these journalists even go over there - especially after all these beheadings - Daniel Pearl should have been an eye opener.

    I suppose it is one thing to go with a military convoy, tribal folk or Kurds - but it's something different if you're going out freelancing. That is a really good way to get kidnapped and potentially beheaded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    What I don't understand is why these journalists even go over there - especially after all these beheadings - Daniel Pearl should have been an eye opener.

    I suppose it is one thing to go with a military convoy, tribal folk or Kurds - but it's something different if you're going out freelancing. That is a really good way to get kidnapped and potentially beheaded.
    I often wonder that myself. Talk about taking your life in your own hands, right? You couldn't pay me enough to do that job there, even with big burly security guys carrying guns.

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    Re: ISIS Beheads Steven Sotloff.....

    Quote Originally Posted by LadyMoonlight View Post
    In my opinion, ISIS is pushing and pushing, hoping for a response from the West and, ultimatley when the West retaliates, Muslims the world over uniting as one. That, I believe is their ultimate game...a united Muslim front. Oh, and I know that most people believe that there are "two" Islams..."fundamental" and "moderate", but there isn't. Mohammad only invented one Islam and there are those who follow it and those who don't.

    Why do real Muslims behead captives/enemies? Why do real Muslims have sex-slaves? Why do real Muslims have child brides? Why do real Muslims kill apostates? Why do real Muslims stone women to death? etc. etc. Because that is exactly what Mohammad did. So called "moderate" Muslims cannot speak out about what ISIS is doing because to do so would be to condemn Mohammad and everything he said and did. Muslims believe that Mohammad was the perfect man and all Muslims should seek to emmulate him and his life. Well, ISIS is doing just that. People have to realise, that Islam is more than just the Qu'ran....Islam is the Qu'ran and the hadith and the sura...Everything Mohammad said and everything Mohammad did is equally as important. Mohammad was a psychopath, a liar, a thief, a mass murderer, a rapist and a pedophile...that is historical fact from Islamic writings, but he is still considered that most perfect man who ever lived and all of his words and actions were sanctioned by God himself. Anyone who knows anything about Mohammad and his life and still chooses to follow him, tells me everything I need to know about that person and that is a person I want nothing to do with and a God I want nothing to do with. I don't believe in the myth of the "moderate" Muslim...I believe that anyone who sanctions and believes in a man like Mohammad is NOT a harmless, moderate person. If Mohammad came back today he would look at ISIS and say "That is Islam, that is what I wanted" and he would condemn "moderate" Muslims as weak and probably apostates.

    ISIS is Islam, full stop. Unfortunately, people in Western nations refuse to accept that..why? Because if one recognises that there is a problem then one has to do something about it and it's all too hard and dangerous to do so.


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    In the past, United States officials saw the Islamist groups’ abundant resources as the main draw for recruits, said Steven Heydemann, a senior adviser at the United States Institute of Peace, which works with the State Department.

    The strategy is based on the current assessment that popular appeal of these groups is transactional, not ideological, and that opportunities exist to peel people away by providing alternative support and resources,” he said. Mr. Heydemann acknowledged, however, that the current momentum toward radicalism could be hard to reverse.....snip~

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/28/wo...nted=all&_r=2&

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