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    Re: ISIS Beheads Steven Sotloff.....

    Quote Originally Posted by JumpinJack View Post
    Americans need to stop going there. From military to dogs to journalists to aid workers. Get out, and stay out. We have no business there.

    NOW do others see why it took a Saddam Hussein to run Iraq? He was brutal, but he sure as heck kept out the terrorists and Iran. That part of the world is like that. They live lower than animals. They don't reason, they don't think logically, they don't value life. They're fanatics.
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    Re: ISIS Beheads Steven Sotloff.....

    Quote Originally Posted by JumpinJack View Post
    NOW do others see why it took a Saddam Hussein to run Iraq? He was brutal, but he sure as heck kept out the terrorists and Iran. That part of the world is like that. They live lower than animals. They don't reason, they don't think logically, they don't value life. They're fanatics.
    Arabs are subhuman?

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    Re: ISIS Beheads Steven Sotloff.....

    These ISIS militants are so useful. They boast their barbaric methods by beheading civilians, they threat everyone else in the world, they present their backward mentality coming from the medieval ages, and they invite more and more extremists from all over the place.

    The ISIS position is very polar from the rest of the civilian world. So first you have an example of barbarianism that you could use as a sample how Muslims in civilian world should not be like. Nations can warn their religious politicians that for example a religious requirement such as burka's in schools sound like women that live in ISIS and such for example. Enforcing religious concepts into people's throats seems like an ISIS behavior, etc.

    You have a highly televised hellish extreme of Islam in ISIS. That is the limit, and whatever aims to that direction could be stopped by using ISIS as an example.

    When all the Muslims in western countries are put to their civil place (i.e., away from ISIS like behaviors, that they cannot really support to live like [for their own good]), no one is left needing ISIS, and say they become a nuisance in the area, then they could be put off easily.
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    Re: ISIS Beheads Steven Sotloff.....

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    Looks like bad alliances are going to have to be made. buddying up with Assad so that we can squeeze ISIL back into his brick wall as they are pushed out of Iraq.

    Starting to make more sense why iron fisted dictators ran the middle east... just to suppress these even more extreme nutjobs.
    ITA on that second part. These people are so out of control that it makes sense that they can't live under a democracy, so a dictatorship seems to be the only rule (such as it is) that these people respond to.

    For the first part, that's interesting and I didn't think of that. We are going to need some allies that we probably under normal circumstances would shun, but we will need them.

    <sigh> What a crazy world we live in.

    Both Foley & Sotloff had deep ties to New Hampshire. Foley was from here and his parents live here. Sotloff attended Kimball Union Academy which is a prep school here. This is all consuming on our news.

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    Re: ISIS Beheads Steven Sotloff.....

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    ITA on that second part. These people are so out of control that it makes sense that they can't live under a democracy, so a dictatorship seems to be the only rule (such as it is) that these people respond to.
    Thereby whomever is not comfortable to live in democracy, but is more comfortable to live in ISIS, they the logical conclusion may be willing relocation.
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    Re: ISIS Beheads Steven Sotloff.....

    Quote Originally Posted by beefheart View Post
    It is indeed horrific, and thoughts go to his family, it is a horrible human tradgedy.

    But is this all that ISIS can do? Kill American hostages who are tied up? What happens when they run out of them? More sternly worded warnings?

    Are we supposed to quake in fear? Are supposed to spend another trillion and thousands of soldier's lives?

    I'm not impressed by their attempts to scare us.
    Yeah you're right. No big deal.

    I'm not scared, I'm pissed and it sounds like you don't think we should do anything about it but issue our own sternly worded letter or maybe an apology.
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    Re: ISIS Beheads Steven Sotloff.....

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    We are going to need some allies that we probably under normal circumstances would shun, but we will need them.
    Unfortunately I cannot agree with you there. This has been a method which has caused the current foreign policy nightmare we are in now IMO. The "Enemy of my enemy is my friend" method just ends up biting us later in the bite. Sure, short-term it may work, but long-term we just keep up an endless war cycle which is where ISIS has thrived on in the first place.

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    Re: ISIS Beheads Steven Sotloff.....

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Yeah you're right. No big deal.

    I'm not scared, I'm pissed and it sounds like you don't think we should do anything about it but issue our own sternly worded letter or maybe an apology.
    No, I am for targeted airstrikes. Not for sending in 5000 troops and having it turn into a multi year trillion dollar boondoggle.
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    Re: ISIS Beheads Steven Sotloff.....

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    ITA on that second part. These people are so out of control that it makes sense that they can't live under a democracy, so a dictatorship seems to be the only rule (such as it is) that these people respond to.

    For the first part, that's interesting and I didn't think of that. We are going to need some allies that we probably under normal circumstances would shun, but we will need them.

    <sigh> What a crazy world we live in.

    Both Foley & Sotloff had deep ties to New Hampshire. Foley was from here and his parents live here. Sotloff attended Kimball Union Academy which is a prep school here. This is all consuming on our news.
    You're right. We need as many Allies as possible in order to defeat the beast. In fact this shared commonality of working together against a common enemy might make for closer ties with these countries.

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    Re: ISIS Beheads Steven Sotloff.....

    Quote Originally Posted by beefheart View Post
    No, I am for targeted airstrikes. Not for sending in 5000 troops and having it turn into a multi year trillion dollar boondoggle.
    Why 5.000?

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