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    Re: Poll: 71 percent say keep Redskin

    Quote Originally Posted by AliHajiSheik View Post
    Of all the indian-based names, this one is the most likely to be offensive.

    Go 'Noles!
    A Chief or Brave is a job, not a race. The 'Noles are not a race but a tribe and they gave permission.




    The issue has nothing to do with anyone being offended. Stereotyping a race is bad for society. Do you support racial stereotypes?

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    Re: Poll: 71 percent say keep Redskin

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    If Native Americans themselves want the name changed, it should be changed.
    Not all American Indians are offended by it. A large majority of them are indifferent on the issue.
    So...should the name be forcibly changed just because a few American Indians have a burr up their asses about it? I say NO.

    Besides...not all of the whiners are AIs. Most of the cry babies are PC Leftists who have nothing better to do then to go around raising a stink over something and act like the world will explode if it's not changed to suit their braindead ideals.

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    Re: Poll: 71 percent say keep Redskin

    Quote Originally Posted by Roadvirus View Post
    Not all American Indians are offended by it. A large majority of them are indifferent on the issue.
    Who cares? Stereotyping a race is bad for society. Do you support racial stereotyping?

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    Re: Poll: 71 percent say keep Redskin

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Several politicians have urged NFL commissioner Roger Goodell to force team owner Dan Snyder to change the name, including Attorney General Eric Holder, Sen. Harry Reid and former secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton.

    These 3 need something else to keep them busy. The Senate Majority leader isn't supposed to be involving himself in pro football names, FFS, and that fool Holder - WTF is he thinking weighing in? STFU. Hillary, meh I can forgive her, she needs to stay relevant and in the public eye.

    I don't care if they change it or not. As a lifelong Giants fan, I will hate the 'Skins no matter what.
    Several politicians? That's inaccurate. 50 Dumbo Senators (including Senile Harry) took the time to create and sign a letter demanding the name be changed.

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    Re: Poll: 71 percent say keep Redskin

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Who cares? Stereotyping a race is bad for society. Do you support racial stereotyping?
    Who's stereotying? Not me! I see no stereotyping in the term "Redskins" in this context.
    Don't go flinging around the race card.

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    Re: Poll: 71 percent say keep Redskin

    Quote Originally Posted by Roadvirus View Post
    Who's stereotying? Not me! I see no stereotyping in the term "Redskins" in this context.
    Don't go flinging around the race card.
    You don't think the whole 'war paint' thing stereotypes Native Americans? It's not like their name is 'warriors' or 'braves', it's Redskins.

    The name clearly stereotypes Native Americans as militant warriors, while that's not the truth about all NAs then or now.

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    Re: Poll: 71 percent say keep Redskin

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Several politicians have urged NFL commissioner Roger Goodell to force team owner Dan Snyder to change the name, including Attorney General Eric Holder, Sen. Harry Reid and former secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton.

    These 3 need something else to keep them busy. The Senate Majority leader isn't supposed to be involving himself in pro football names, FFS, and that fool Holder - WTF is he thinking weighing in? STFU. Hillary, meh I can forgive her, she needs to stay relevant and in the public eye.

    I don't care if they change it or not. As a lifelong Giants fan, I will hate the 'Skins no matter what.
    The irony is most Indian tribes have no problem with the name.
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    Re: Poll: 71 percent say keep Redskin

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    The funny part is that those doing the most bitching are white progressives. Then of course they're always the ones talking for someone else.

    I don't even understand how "Redskins" is even remotely racist or even negative....

    I know Asians that call themselves "Yellow" with pride, I know Mexicans that call themselves "Brown" with pride but all of a sudden "Redskins" is somehow racist or demeaning?

    Hell, Italians/Sicilians call themselves "Olive"
    Actually, most of those doing the bitching are Indians.


    Washington Redskins name controversy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    In the 1940s the National Congress of American Indians (NCAI) created a campaign to eliminate negative stereotyping of Native American people in the media. Over time, the campaign began to focus on Indian names and mascots in sports.[267] The NCAI maintains that teams with mascots such as the Braves and the Redskins perpetuate negative stereotypes of Native American people, and demean their native traditions and rituals.[268] The NCAI issued a new report in 2013 summarizing opposition to Indian mascots and team names generally, and the Washington Redskins in particular.[269] In the trademark case, the board placed significance on the NCAI opposition, estimating that the organization represented about 30% of the Native American population at the time the trademarks were granted.[270]

    The following groups have passed resolutions or issued statements regarding their opposition to the name of the Washington NFL team:

    Tribes[edit]

    Affiliated Tribes of Northwest Indians[271]
    Cherokee Nation of Oklahoma[271]
    Comanche Nation of Oklahoma[271]
    The Confederated Tribes of the Colville Reservation (Washington)[271]
    Grand Traverse Band of Ottawa and Chippewa Indians (Michigan)
    Hoh Indian Tribe[272]
    Inter Tribal Council of Arizona[273]
    Inter-Tribal Council of the Five Civilized Tribes[274][275]
    Juaneño Band of Mission Indians (California)[271]
    Little River Band of Ottawa Indians (Michigan)
    Match-E-Be-Nash-She-Wish Band of Pottawatomi Indians, Gun Lake Tribe (Michigan)[276]
    Menominee Tribe of Indians (Wisconsin)[271]
    Oneida Indian Nation (New York)[277]
    Oneida Tribe of Indians of Wisconsin[271]
    Navajo Nation Council[166]
    Penobscot Nation[278]
    Poarch Band of Creek Indians[279]
    Samish Indian Nation (Washington)[280]
    Sault Ste. Marie Tribe of Chippewa Indians (Michigan)[281]
    Shoshone-Bannock Tribes (Idaho)[282]
    Standing Rock Sioux Tribe (North Dakota)
    The Three Affiliated Tribes of the Fort Berthold Indian Reservation (North Dakota)[283]
    United South and Eastern Tribes (USET)[284]

    Organizations[edit]

    Advocates for American Indian Children (California)
    American Indian Mental Health Association (Minnesota)
    American Indian Movement[285]
    American Indian Opportunities Industrialization Center of San Bernardino County
    American Indian Student Services at the Ohio State University
    American Indian High Education Consortium
    American Indian College Fund
    Americans for Indian Opportunity
    Association on American Indian Affairs
    Buncombe County Native American Inter-tribal Association (North Carolina)
    Capitol Area Indian Resources (Sacramento, CA)
    Concerned American Indian Parents (Minnesota)
    Council for Indigenous North Americans (University of Southern Maine)
    Eagle and Condor Indigenous Peoples’ Alliance
    First Peoples Worldwide
    Fontana Native American Indian Center, Inc. (California)
    Governor’s Interstate Indian Council
    Greater Tulsa Area Indian Affairs Commission[286]
    Great Lakes Inter-Tribal Council (Wisconsin)
    HONOR – Honor Our Neighbors Origins and Rights
    Kansas Association for Native American Education
    Maryland Commission on Indian Affairs
    Medicine Wheel Inter-tribal Association (Louisiana)
    Minnesota Indian Education Association
    National Congress of American Indians (NCAI)
    National Indian Child Welfare Association
    National Indian Education Association
    National Indian Youth Council
    National Native American Law Student Association
    Native American Caucus of the California Democratic Party
    Native American Finance Officers Association (NAFOA)[287]
    Native American Journalists Association[288]
    Native American Indian Center of Central Ohio
    Native American Journalists Association
    Native American Rights Fund (NARF)
    Native Voice Network
    Nebraska Commission on Indian Affairs
    Nottawaseppi Huron Band of Potawatomi (Michigan)
    North Carolina Commission of Indian Affairs
    North Dakota Indian Education Association
    Office of Native American Ministry, Diocese of Grand Rapids (Michigan)
    Ohio Center for Native American Affairs
    San Bernardino/Riverside Counties Native American Community Council
    Seminole Nation of Oklahoma
    Society of Indian Psychologists of the Americas
    Southern California Indian Center
    St. Cloud State University – American Indian Center
    Tennessee Chapter of the National Coalition for the Preservation of Indigenous Cultures
    Tennessee Commission of Indian Affairs
    Tennessee Native Veterans Society
    Tulsa Indian Coalition Against Racism[289]
    The Confederated Tribes of the Colville Reservation
    Unified Coalition for American Indian Concerns, Virginia
    The United Indian Nations of Oklahoma
    Virginia American Indian Cultural Resource Center
    Wisconsin Indian Education Association
    WIEA “Indian” Mascot and Logo Taskforce (Wisconsin)
    Woodland Indian Community Center-Lansing (Michigan)
    Youth “Indian” Mascot and Logo Task force (Wisconsin)

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    Re: Poll: 71 percent say keep Redskin

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    A Chief or Brave is a job, not a race. The 'Noles are not a race but a tribe and they gave permission.




    The issue has nothing to do with anyone being offended. Stereotyping a race is bad for society. Do you support racial stereotypes?
    If you are going to ask the same question of everyone, ask it as a poll. I made my feelings known.
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    Re: Poll: 71 percent say keep Redskin

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    The irony is most Indian tribes have no problem with the name.
    The real irony is that most of the Indians who claim they don't have a problem with the name aren't even real Indians. lol



    "...In May 2013, the Redskins' website reported the opinions of a local fan, Stephen D. Dodson, who claimed to be a chief and "full-blooded American Inuit originally from the Aleutian Tribes of Alaska." He said that not only was "Redskins" not offensive to him and his "whole family", but it was a "term of endearment" that Indians "on the reservation [...] would call each other".[157] On June 5, NFL commissioner Roger Goodell wrote a letter to Congress, which in part pointed to "recent remarks from Chief Steven Dodson, an American Inuit chief" to indicate support for the nickname among Native Americans.[158]

    Two weeks later, Dave McKenna of Deadspin reported that the Redskins' "full-blooded American Inuit chief" was "neither a full-blooded American Inuit nor a chief in any formal sense," and "Chief" was only a nickname. The only documentation McKenna found that referred to Dodson as "Chief" was on a list of AKAs from court records related to "theft, paternity, and domestic violence matters." (The same records say Dodson's middle name is "Dallas.") McKenna quotes Kelly Eningowuk, executive director of the Inuit Circumpolar Council-Alaska, who says that neither "Chief" nor "Indian" are terms used by Alaska's native peoples in self-description. She said the pow wows Dodson claims to have attended would be irrelevant to his supposed Inuit ancestry.[159]

    While acknowledging the Deadspin report, The Washington Free Beacon named Dodson its 2013 Man of the Year, "For standing up for the free speech rights of the powerful yet pathetic."[160]...read..."

    Washington Redskins name controversy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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