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    Re: Poll: 71 percent say keep Redskin

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    There is in the logo no war paint or any connection to the war path or, indeed, anything warlike at all.
    You can't be serious. Have you seen the mascot or heard where the logo comes from?

    But let's be honest. This is what some people like about them:

    During most of this unsuccessful period, Marshall continually refused to integrate the team, despite pressure from The Washington Post and the federal government of the United States.[28] On March 24, 1961, Secretary of the Interior Stewart Udall warned Marshall to hire black players or face federal retribution. For the first time in history, the federal government had attempted to desegregate a professional sports team.[29]
    And they consider using a racial slur and stereotyping a race to be another stand for racists.

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    Re: Poll: 71 percent say keep Redskin

    Quote Originally Posted by a351 View Post
    What races are?
    Fast moving vehicles/people...

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    Re: Poll: 71 percent say keep Redskin

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    You can't be serious.

    But let's be honest. This is what some people like about them:
    I am completely serious, and your claims are entirely without foundation. The rest of your post is a desperate attempt to change the subject with an irrelevant smear.
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    Re: Poll: 71 percent say keep Redskin

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    You can't be serious. Have you seen the mascot or heard where the logo comes from?

    But let's be honest. This is what some people like about them:
    That is your problem - you actually think others think something about "them.".

    I don't..

    It seems you're obsessed.

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    Re: Poll: 71 percent say keep Redskin

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    You on the other hand seem to believe that we're all the same.
    That's a very stupid strawman. But hey, you'll say anything to keep a racial slur and stereotype that demonizes NA history.


    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    I am completely serious, and your claims are entirely without foundation. The rest of your post is a desperate attempt to change the subject with an irrelevant smear.
    The logo is the depiction of a warrior. The mascot wears war paint, carries a tomahawk and is said to be on the warpath.

    The entire depiction is warrior related, I'm not sure the depth of ignorance required to separate football from that image in the first place.


    You deny it's a stereotype, even though the logo and mascot supposedly represent an entire race of people.

    You deny NA is a race.

    You deny everything, just to keep your treasured racial slur and stereotype.


    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    It seems you're obsessed.
    How many posts have you in this thread? You're obsessed with something, but I don't think it's changing the team's name that really interests you.
    Last edited by ecofarm; 09-02-14 at 08:39 PM.

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    Re: Poll: 71 percent say keep Redskin

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    That's a very stupid strawman. But hey, you'll say anything to keep a racial slur and stereotype that demonizes NA history.




    The logo is the depiction of a warrior. The mascot wears war paint, carries a tomahawk and is said to be on the warpath.

    The entire depiction is warrior related, I'm not sure the depth of ignorance required to separate football from that image in the first place.


    You deny it's a stereotype, even though the logo and mascot supposedly represent an entire race of people.

    You deny NA is a race.

    You deny everything, just to keep your treasured racial slur and stereotype.
    Yeah right, you probably couldn't tell the difference between a Native American, a Sicilian, Spaniard and a Mexican and you're trying to be some "spokesman."

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    Re: Poll: 71 percent say keep Redskin

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Fast moving vehicles/people...
    Cute dodge for sure, but really Mr Nick, what races are genetically inclined to be violent, and which ones aren't?

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    Re: Poll: 71 percent say keep Redskin

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Yeah right, you probably couldn't tell the difference between a Native American, a Sicilian, Spaniard and a Mexican and you're trying to be some "spokesman."
    I'm not a spokesperson for anyone.

    Racial stereotypes are bad for society. That's just a fact, and it doesn't need a spokesperson.

    You cannot get around that fact, so you'll just deny having common sense.

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    Re: Poll: 71 percent say keep Redskin

    My favorite personal story in this area concerns the University of Illinois, my graduate school alma mater. The UI athletic teams are the Fighting Illini, named for the Illinois Indians. For decades the Illini were symbolized by Chief Iliniwek, who appeared with the marching band at halftime of football games, and on other selected school occasions. A young Native American woman, a UI student, filed suit and in the course of legal back-and-forth the Chief was retired.

    There is great irony in this. The Illinois were exterminated by the Sioux before white settlers came on the scene. The young woman who filed the suit is of Sioux descent. In erasing the Chief she completed the work of ethnic cleansing begun by her ancestors.
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    Re: Poll: 71 percent say keep Redskin

    Quote Originally Posted by a351 View Post
    Cute dodge for sure, but really Mr Nick, what races are genetically inclined to be violent, and which ones aren't?
    So the progressives can ban me for being allegedly racist...

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