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    Re: Civil disobedience expected in fast-food pay fight

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    who are you to pass judgement on their demands?

    "Work that isn't that much"?

    And the second line is illegal...you cannot fire workers for striking, not since around 1900 anyway.
    Why shouldn't I be able to fire people for striking? If you go on a strike you are blackmailing your employer to give you more money, and imho that desires punishment. I hire people to work for me, and if they want something from me the door is always open. Acting like I owe you something like my agreement is somehow obligated is trash. If you don't like what I'm willing to accept then leave.

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    Re: Civil disobedience expected in fast-food pay fight

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Really, I'm more than willing to talk to you about your salary, but once you decide to go on strike we are now enemies and I want you out of my sight. Blackmail doesn't go over all that well with me.
    No. Once you show up and do something that has a negative impact on my livelihood, you're done. One of the first things I learned as a young man entering the workforce was that my job was to make my boss money. My first employer told me and the rest of the crew that if we were driving a truck with his name on it, we were to be the most courteous drivers on the road. If we wore a shirt with his name on it, we were to be the most polite and respectful people wherever we were. As an example: I was driving through my neighborhood the other and there was a lawn maintenance crew working on a yard. Their trailer stuck out halfway into the street for no reason other than a sloppy parking job, while the guys doing the work kind of lounged around leaning on mowers and watching as traffic had veer around them and occasionally wait for on-coming traffic. Not only would I NEVER do business with this outfit, if I was their boss, I'd can the whole lot of them. These protests are NOT good for business and if someone who works for me is harming my business, they have one way to go and that's OUT!!
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    Re: Civil disobedience expected in fast-food pay fight

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    I'll flip burgers for $25 an hour. I do it at home for my kids' friends for nothing.
    Little free-loaders!! Don't they know that you have a family to feed???


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    Re: Civil disobedience expected in fast-food pay fight

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    Does that mean we'll be seeing more jackboot thugs pointing rifles at citizens and more violations of their civil and constitutional rights?
    Only socialist wear jackboots.

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    Re: Civil disobedience expected in fast-food pay fight

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Fast food workers are no longer just for teens starting their first job, there are parents, adults, grandparents, uncles. Many college grades work there too. I am willing to pay a little more extra to help these workers out. [/FONT][/COLOR]
    This is an effort to "fix" the wrong problem once again. It is what I have come to expect from self described socialists. I hope for the sake of our country we are able to defeat the efforts of the socialist types. Always working to fix the wrong problem.

    Why is it that grandpappy, college grads and other adults are working at McDonalds? What action is it that they took (or neglected to take) that placed them in the position of working in such a dead end job?

    And why is it that they are STILL WORKING THERE? If that is the best that they can do, then they are being appropriately paid at the minimum rate. If they can do better than that, THEY SHOULD!!

    Quite frankly, until McDonalds workers can put the correct food in the correct bag and pass it out the window to the correct customer (which only happens about 1 out of three times I eat there) they are overpaid at $7.25 IMHO.
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    Re: Civil disobedience expected in fast-food pay fight

    Quote Originally Posted by kamikaze483 View Post
    This is an effort to "fix" the wrong problem once again. It is what I have come to expect from self described socialists. I hope for the sake of our country we are able to defeat the efforts of the socialist types. Always working to fix the wrong problem.

    Why is it that grandpappy, college grads and other adults are working at McDonalds? What action is it that they took (or neglected to take) that placed them in the position of working in such a dead end job?

    And why is it that they are STILL WORKING THERE? If that is the best that they can do, then they are being appropriately paid at the minimum rate. If they can do better than that, THEY SHOULD!!

    Quite frankly, until McDonalds workers can put the correct food in the correct bag and pass it out the window to the correct customer (which only happens about 1 out of three times I eat there) they are overpaid at $7.25 IMHO.
    Remember if you work at McDonalds its just cuz "you made bad choices, and you deserve as little pay as possible!", and if you want to raise the wage then you are a "big bad socialist!"


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    Re: Civil disobedience expected in fast-food pay fight

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    For?

    The right of organizing and collective bargaining is a long established right, hard won by the likes of Walter Reuther at the battle of the overpass. I am afraid your days of punishing strikers is over as it's illegal.

    IF anyone., we see only a threat, does commit acts of violence you have a criminal justice department.
    If they desire to organize they are more than welcome to it and I should be more than welcome to fire them for it too. If they want to bargain with me, fine, but if I say "no" to bargaining with them the answer is no. Why should I have to deal with being blackmailed and why should I be forced to interact with people?

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    Re: Civil disobedience expected in fast-food pay fight

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Uhhh paying double wont change anything. They still will have the wage...
    Think of it as a 'tip'. After all, they deserve more for a low skill job, right?

    That way those who agree with you can help a brother out, right?
    Building block or stumbling block.... choose.

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    Re: Civil disobedience expected in fast-food pay fight

    I think they may be in for a surprise when they find out that people dont really need fast food.
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Civil disobedience expected in fast-food pay fight

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Remember if you work at McDonalds its just cuz "you made bad choices, and you deserve as little pay as possible!", and if you want to raise the wage then you are a "big bad socialist!"
    More along the line that if you want to raise the wage, find a position that you are able to do which pays more. It requires initiative and personal responsibility. If you do not have those two things, that is your fault, not mine... and not McDonalds.

    Here is a scenario: All of the people who work in fast food quit and find a better job using their thinking cap, their initiative, and showing personal responsibility. Then, McDonalds doesn't have enough workers to meet demand. In order to attract workers, they then would have to raise the wage. The market dictates wages in the same way that it dictates cost of products and services- through the law of supply and demand.

    That is how you get all those people the wages they deserve and keep the price of a big mac from going to $17.50.
    "We need to ask some very tough questions of the senator from Illinois. It's not enough to be black, it's not enough to be articulate, it's not enough to be eloquent and a media darling. The only question will be how deaf an ear, or how blind an eye will people turn in order to turn a frog into a prince." -Eddie Huff

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