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    Re: Civil disobedience expected in fast-food pay fight

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Excellent. I wonder if Burger King will be represented? Of course, Sherrod Brown has called for a mass boycott of BK and if he has his way, then they won't even need to worry about that $7.25.

    What should burger flippers be paid anyway?
    Why on earth would Sherrod Brown call for a boycott of Burger King, when the CEO is a fellow Democrat - other than that's what his party does when they don't understand how the business world operates? Doesn't he realize that a boycott only hurts the people who work there, or doesn't he care about that? So why isn't he also calling for a boycott of GM? His constituents are directly affected with loss of jobs when GM decides to build cars in China and Mexico instead of the US. Why the double standard, Sherrod? :

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    Re: Civil disobedience expected in fast-food pay fight

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Why on earth would Sherrod Brown call for a boycott of Burger King, when the CEO is a fellow Democrat - other than that's what his party does when they don't understand how the business world operates? Doesn't he realize that a boycott only hurts the people who work there, or doesn't he care about that? So why isn't he also calling for a boycott of GM? His constituents are directly affected with loss of jobs when GM decides to build cars in China and Mexico instead of the US. Why the double standard, Sherrod? :


    "I am entitled to my entitlements" is a direct quote from a Canadian member of Parliament - MP - who was caught with both hands and a leg in the cookie jar, having run up $435,000 in travel expenses in one year.

    It is an icon for the various factions "fighting" for what is "theirs" whether it be free housing or a bail out for GM and the world's bankers. The game has been shifted through the collective dumbing down to a 144 character crawl across defining most issues. It has gone from "what's mine is mine" to "to what I say is mine, is mine."

    The corporate socialists who demand tax breaks and bail outs use fear as their main weapon: "too large to fail". The labor left uses intimidation as their primary weapon...give us what we want or we'll put you out of business, which really is killing the goose.

    Here, today, there is no school because in the name of "the students" teachers have withdrawn their services because they want smaller class sizes. This is, in any logical society, is as much extortion as "too large to fail".

    The strike was invented by Masons and their laborers in the middle ages, a secret society controlled all building and if you did not pay them what they demanded, as much as one and a half pennies a day!, your castle simply never got built.

    I suspect big corporate figured out how it would work for them in WWII.
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    Re: Civil disobedience expected in fast-food pay fight

    Food fights

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    Re: Civil disobedience expected in fast-food pay fight

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Why on earth would Sherrod Brown call for a boycott of Burger King, when the CEO is a fellow Democrat - other than that's what his party does when they don't understand how the business world operates? Doesn't he realize that a boycott only hurts the people who work there, or doesn't he care about that? So why isn't he also calling for a boycott of GM? His constituents are directly affected with loss of jobs when GM decides to build cars in China and Mexico instead of the US. Why the double standard, Sherrod? :
    Because he's a simpleton.

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    Re: Civil disobedience expected in fast-food pay fight

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    They deserve a wage increase. Hell everyone working minimum wage does.
    No, they do not. Period.
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    Re: Civil disobedience expected in fast-food pay fight

    Can someone tell me what an appropriate wage is for someone who flips burgers, pops a wire basket of fries in grease, or sits at the driveup window taking money or credit cards and asking "Do you want sauce with that?"

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    Re: Civil disobedience expected in fast-food pay fight

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    For?

    The right of organizing and collective bargaining is a long established right, hard won by the likes of Walter Reuther at the battle of the overpass. I am afraid your days of punishing strikers is over as it's illegal.

    IF anyone., we see only a threat, does commit acts of violence you have a criminal justice department.
    Demanding pay for work that is not worth that much.
    Attempting to hold hostage the company that pays them at all.
    I refuse to eat there based a lot on the fact that I wonder what a bunch of disgruntled employees would do to my food. I cant be the only one.

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    Re: Civil disobedience expected in fast-food pay fight

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Can someone tell me what an appropriate wage is for someone who flips burgers, pops a wire basket of fries in grease, or sits at the driveup window taking money or credit cards and asking "Do you want sauce with that?"
    I remember when I was a kid I worked for 2.85hr! And I can tell you exactly what I thought, I need to find a better job!! Screw these idiots that want 20$hr to flip burgers. The work is not even labor intensive enough to demand that kind of money, go dig a ditch or do some landscaping for a week then they will realize how little they actually do! Now that I think about it, I believe it was more like 2.35hr

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    Re: Civil disobedience expected in fast-food pay fight

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Read more @: CIVIL DISOBEDIENCE EXPECTED IN FAST-FOOD PAY FIGHT

    They deserve a wage increase. Hell everyone working minimum wage does. We have a problem in this country, and its vast inequality. All the people that seem to be against wage increases are those who are fortunate enough not to work in those jobs. Fast food workers are no longer just for teens starting their first job, there are parents, adults, grandparents, uncles. Many college grades work there too. I am willing to pay a little more extra to help these workers out. [/FONT][/COLOR]
    The problem is not the wage level for minimum wage jobs. The problem is, as you state, the reliance of many on entry level, part-time, and minimum skilled jobs that were the sole domain of teenagers, college students, housewives whose kids are now in school, and the elderly who wanted something to do or supplemental income in retirement.

    No prospering and growing economy can rely of a large segment of its population entering and staying in minimum wage jobs for their entire working lives. Anyone who aspires to a full life of working at Burger King deserves to make minimum wage plus whatever minimal increases one receives year over year.

    Instead of pushing for businesses to be saddled with saving the livelihoods of people, why don't you push for government action on the decay of the manufacturing economy that has not been replaced by equally well paying jobs. If you want to pay more for things, why don't you push to pay more for all the products you import from China and southeast Asia so those products can return to being produced inside America.
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    Re: Civil disobedience expected in fast-food pay fight

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Why on earth would Sherrod Brown call for a boycott of Burger King, when the CEO is a fellow Democrat - other than that's what his party does when they don't understand how the business world operates? Doesn't he realize that a boycott only hurts the people who work there, or doesn't he care about that? So why isn't he also calling for a boycott of GM? His constituents are directly affected with loss of jobs when GM decides to build cars in China and Mexico instead of the US. Why the double standard, Sherrod? :
    Wait a minute here.

    A fellow Democrat is leading BK to an inversion with Tim Horton's to avoid paying US corporate taxes?

    Why is it that the market based laws of supply and demand escape so many?
    Why is it that intervention by government or unions in an attempt to subvert that law is always counterproductive escapes so many?

    Burger flipping is at BK is worth what customers are willing to pay for a Whopper, no more, and the market has pretty well set that compensation rate.

    It's as if the view is some can mandate market parameters, which is usually decided by the market realities, to whatever is desired, rather than what is realistic. So they proceed with doing that, and then are surprised when the market reacts, often in a negative way - such as installing computer kiosks rather than hiring fast food cashiers.

    If there were ever a case of continuing to do the same thing and expecting different results, these actions of some would have to be included.
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